Retail routing to IEX exchange

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by unregisterred, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. just wanted to post that. however i think he said "inter market sweep" instead of "enter" and "now includes IEX" instead of "not includes".
     
    #21     Apr 16, 2014
  2. just21

    just21

    I have listened to the conference call at about 11m 50 seconds and have corrected the seeking alpha transcript.

    https://investors.interactivebrokers.com/ir/main.php

    "At this point, IEX is a dark pool that will forward inter market sweep orders, so that they get to their destinations exactly at the same time. We made IEX available, but believe that our customers remain to be better served by our smart router, which now includes IEX also."

    Thomas Peterffy
     
    #22     Apr 16, 2014
  3. rwk

    rwk

    I have been struggling to get my brain around this topic of market microstructure. I recently read Flash Boys and believe the author has made a convincing case that IEX is beneficial to traders. I would like to provide at least moral support.

    I don't even know if HFT predation is affecting my PnL. I had been assuming that my "mouse nuts" trading was too insignificant to be a factor. But in some of the issues I trade, 100 shares is huge.

    The most important message I got from Flash Boys was that the problem is not high frequency trading per se, but a screwed up market. Painting HFT as "evil" makes for good storytelling, but it may not be the best public policy. As Lewis pointed out in his book, the problems in the market today are the direct result of solutions to previous problems. I worry about how the solution to HFT predation will screw things up even worse. Transaction tax, anyone?

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    #23     Apr 16, 2014
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  4. just21

    just21

    For small orders the market is more liquid and has tighter spreads than any time in history. This is a problem for big orders from mutual funds so does affect a lot of smaller investors indirectly.
     
    #24     Apr 16, 2014
  5. Honest question, what defines a small order these days? 100 shares or less?
     
    #25     Apr 16, 2014
  6. just21

    just21

    Ib smart router breaks my orders down into 100's when I try to buy 1000's.
     
    #26     Apr 16, 2014

  7. def / IBSoft- any chance of this happening?
     
    #27     Apr 16, 2014
  8. For anyone interested, Tradestation is offering unbundled pricing with no surcharge to direct route orders to IEX (or anywhere else). Hopefully, IB follows suit.
     
    #28     Apr 23, 2014
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  9. dloyer

    dloyer

    Yes, TS will allow an order to be routed to IEX, but only if it is marked "FOK" (Fill or kill)

    TS does not offer a way to have a order rest on IEX or allow IEX to route it someplace else.

    So, while TS can claim the are connected, they are not connected in a way that is useful to most users.
     
    #29     Apr 23, 2014
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  10. Spoke with TS about this...that was Stage 1 of the implementation. They are in the process of adding all available order durations/types to IEX.
     
    #30     Apr 24, 2014