Retail routing to IEX exchange

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by unregisterred, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. Internalization and PFOF is a different issue. If someone is routing to IEX, I would assume they also (or previously) route to other exchanges. Cutting internalization/PFOF out of the loop.
     
    #11     Apr 14, 2014
  2. Def- will orders directly routed to IEX via API have the same cost plus comm rate as SMART routed orders?
     
    #12     Apr 14, 2014
  3. def

    def Sponsor

    My understanding is that they have the same cost plus comm rate as any other API orders using the direct route.
     
    #13     Apr 15, 2014
  4. promagma

    promagma

    I'd like to know, does IEX route out, and if so, do they "thor" it?
     
    #14     Apr 15, 2014
  5. def

    def Sponsor

    Don't know about Thor -you'll have to ask them. But from their site:


    Order Execution & Routing

    For any execution to occur on the IEX ATS during Regular Trading Hours, the applicable order price must be equal to or better than the Protected NBBO, unless the order is marked ISO or unless the execution falls within another exception set forth in Rule 611(b) of Regulation NMS.

    Unless otherwise specified by Subscriber order instructions, incoming orders will first be tested for execution matches against the Order Book, and any unexecuted shares will be cancelled, posted on the Order Book, or routed as IOC orders to one (1) or more away Trading Centers. The process of resting against the Order Book and/or routing to away Trading Centers may be repeated, consistent with Subscriber order instructions, order type and routing strategy definitions, and prevailing market conditions.

    The IEX smart order router (SOR) is connected to the thirteen (13) national securities exchanges currently operating, and LavaFlow ECN.
     
    #15     Apr 15, 2014
  6. Thanks for the reply def. I believe that means they're not eligible for cost plus and fall under a flat rate of $.013/share:

    https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=commission&p=stocks2

    My average all-in using SMART API orders is ~.0034/share, so we're talking roughly 4x the cost to send orders to IEX. I'm appreciative of the fact that you guys have added them, but without the orders being included in the cost plus structure, using them isn't a realistic option. Would IB consider adding these to the cost plus structure? I know you've done this in the past in similar situations (e.g. native pegged orders).
     
    #16     Apr 15, 2014
  7. rwk

    rwk

    I have a similar question. I prefer to continue using SMART routing, and I notice that IEX is one of the places that SMART routs to. I recall that we can tweak SMART routing somewhat, and it would be nice to be able to preference IEX when I am posting bids or offers. I am more interested in getting good fills than in getting rebates.
     
    #17     Apr 15, 2014
  8. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    As most traders should be...
     
    #18     Apr 15, 2014
  9. IBsoft

    IBsoft Interactive Brokers

    We will not route your non marketable orders to IEX. For now IEX is a dark pool w/ small volume. Your orders would thus not be visible and would be exposed to only a small percentage of nation wide marketable orders.
     
    #19     Apr 15, 2014
  10. just21

    just21

    Not according to Thomas Peterffy, Chairman and CEO of Interactive Brokers

    "At this point, IEX is a dark pool that will forward enter market sweep orders, so that they get to their destinations exactly at the same time. We made IEX available, but believe that our customers remain to be better served by our smart router, which not includes IEX also."

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/214...-2014-results-earnings-call-transcript?page=3
     
    #20     Apr 16, 2014