Real Reasons Behind Market Patterns

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by cornix, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. ammo

    ammo

    the spx and dow are both turning at a res area ,may continue to drop, the transports, hovering at res,setting up a 3 step pattern, need to drop with the dow and spx, ndx has fallen below the mar 14 line and needs to test then break the 2012 supp line, 35 pts lower than fridays close. these charts are a continuation of those posted wednesday in this journal, what the trader is looking for in big picture down to the small is the institutional players, one of the best trades is when they are all hitting and turning at resistance together, like a fleet of large ships, arriving at port, unloading their cargo, reloading with new cargo and leaving port together
     
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    #61     Sep 14, 2014
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  2. doggyfx

    doggyfx

    Interesting but.. Guess it's too desperately drafted platform. If you are not able to to take the bull by the horn, most easily to furnish yourself with conspiracy theory :) and grandly spread your doctrine among noobs like me :)
     
    #62     Sep 14, 2014
  3. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    For the past few years I illustrate on ET example after example of open and direct price movement* and the anti-TA "Surf Camp" warns all the noobs to stay as far away from me as possible lest I cause their imminent financial demise.

    Note to NOOBS: If you come to believe Surf's statement above you will end up with a mindset that will surely cause your financial demise!

    :eek:

    * In a given time frame, price is either trending or ranging. It only takes 3 swing price points to determine which and to profit accordingly from the odds in your favor.
     
    #63     Sep 14, 2014

  4. You would be ok--Linda, well your ok, anyway! --- if you just admitted there's lots of intuition involved in your way of trading. with that, I have no issue===
     
    #64     Sep 14, 2014
  5. cornix

    cornix

    Speaking of intuition aka "the zone" quite few participants of this thread admitted it's importance.
     
    #65     Sep 14, 2014
  6. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    Who is Linda? Is NoDoji famous?
    I think she is Gary B Smith.
     
    #66     Sep 14, 2014
  7. Redneck

    Redneck


    The zone has little to do with intuition

    It is the absence of all conflict

    While…,

    Being completely in sync with price movement / the behavior creating that PA

    Then…,

    Trading such


    Where one is neither ahead…, nor behind – rather right smack dab in sync

    To an outsider – it does appear as if intuition is involved – rest assured it is not

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    Btw..,

    Reading the above..., it could sound as if this means one trading in the zone is capturing every little gyration price makes – possibly even without any losses

    Please don’t be so myopic – or stupid

    It means – absolutely.., one has losses…, and wins…

    But neither has any smidgen of lingering affect on the next trade / next series of trades / on the trader / nor the trader's actions

    eta - and a missed trade is simply prelude to the next

    Think - follow the process - to hell with the results

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    NOD has no internal conflict.., trusts her methodology implicitly..., is able to trade it (no compunction)

    Nothing else required


    RN
     
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    #67     Sep 14, 2014
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  8. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I once ran a paper-trading study of my intuition for about a week. I put on my trades as indicated by my plan, but also logged on paper the prices at which my intuition (what feels right at the time) told me to trade. My intuition was so wrong that fading it provided a stronger edge than my regular setups! As a result of that little "study", I discovered a new strategy which led to my first fully automated strategy.

    Because my early trading experience was based on RTM counter-trend trading, my intuition was not to be trusted. Learning to trade in the direction of a strong trend felt as difficult as walking on a high wire without a net. Now I can do it in a timely manner, but it still feels like I'm putting on the dumbest trade in the book.
     
    #68     Sep 15, 2014
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  9. JTrades

    JTrades

    Yes, I'm battling my intuition amongst other things. I don't understand why trading with the trend is so difficult, but it is, at least for me at the moment.

    Show a non-trader a chart with an up trend and ask what will happen next. The answer will most likely be: "it's gone up a lot already, it's going to go down". I think I'm still approaching things with this same basic premise!
     
    #69     Sep 15, 2014
  10. Another view to id patterns? Combination of emotions and sophisticated algorithms. Or is this anything well known?
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    #70     Sep 21, 2014