Looks like Victor Niederhoffer blew up again

Discussion in 'Trading' started by VictorBustoAgain, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. Can anyone figure out how to be the top ranked hedge fund manage on earth for over a decade without taking massive risk? Maybe use insider info or other cheater methods?
     
    #41     Apr 11, 2014
  2. Poor guy. He has seen the highest highs and the lowest lows and seems to have learned the speculator's edge without learning the risk manager's edge. All that said, certainly a worthy study.
     
    #42     Apr 11, 2014
  3. He's a degen who shorts puts. Fundamentally he's no different than that grandma trading through TOS. You talk about cognitive dissonance. His life is a case-study.
     
    #43     Apr 11, 2014

  4. The guy has accomplished FAR more than you ever have.

    Yeah, degens live in 20k sq foot homes on 13 acres in CT, are published in the top academic journals, have a best selling book, not to mention being world's top player in a sport. sounds degenerate to me.
     
    #44     Apr 11, 2014
  5. zdreg

    zdreg

    " live in 20k sq foot homes on 13 acres in CT, '
    where are the customers' yachts?
    " published in the top academic journals"
    how many decades ago?
    what does being published have to do with making money?

    "The guy has accomplished FAR more than you ever have. "
    the moment you personalize you are walking on quicksand and your words are suspect.
     
    #45     Apr 11, 2014
  6. Crispy

    Crispy

    Can someone offer up these facts for us? - Has his NET, to the end client, cumulative returns outstripped his blowups? Cause other than that who cares? I am genuinely curious.
     
    #46     Apr 11, 2014
  7. zdreg

    zdreg

    depend on your entry point and if you exited before his bankruptcy. the client had to be his own personal market timer which was something clients try to avoid.
     
    #47     Apr 11, 2014
  8. Crispy

    Crispy

    Oh ok. So blowup in this case means scorched earth blow up, not like 50% draw down blowup.

    So essentially the guy is net loser to his end client all said and done. A few who came out unscathed got lucky and withdrew early. The rest lost it all, does that sound right to the guys in the know here?
     
    #48     Apr 11, 2014
  9. Banjo

    Banjo

    #49     Apr 11, 2014
  10. Crispy

    Crispy

    #50     Apr 11, 2014