Human-€induced climate change requires urgent action

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Aug 7, 2014.


  1. Oh this should be fun. Let's look into this "Professor Les Woodcock". Great name for a wooden tool. LOL

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    This is a perfect example of why scientists don't vote Republican

    When it comes to climate change, the intellectual bankruptcy of the conservative movement is stunning

    By Ryan Cooper | April 30, 2014

    This week brought one more sad example of this phenomenon, with Red Stateeditor Erick Erickson tweeting this Breitbart post, which gleefully parrots the views of one Professor Les Woodcock. He is that rarest of beasts, a climate denier with a science degree — butnot in climatology, naturally.

    So some doddering chemist emeritus doesn't believe in climate change. So what, right? But Woodcock's assertions are noteworthy for just how magnificently bogus they are. And the fact that he has been embraced by influential people in the conservative media-sphere shows both the intellectual bankruptcy of movement conservatism and the way it has poisoned the climate change debate.

    Here's the line in question: "There is no reproducible scientific evidence CO2 has significantly increased in the last 100 years." That is an extraordinary statement, and a position that cleverer climate deniers tend to avoid. He's not just saying that warming isn't happening, or that warming is happening but humans aren't causing it. He's flatly asserting, with no hedging whatsoever, that carbon dioxide concentrations haven't increased.

    There's just one flaw with his analysis: carbon dioxide concentrations are very easy to measure!All you do is shine a beam of infrared light through an air sample, look at the absorption frequencies of carbon dioxide, and then deduce the concentration using Beer's Law. It's a classic experiment in Chemistry 101.

    Carbon dioxide concentrations are being measured in this manner right now (as well as with more sophisticated techniques). It's being done all the time in fact, in hundreds of places across the globe, organized by the Cooperative Air Sampling Network. Here's a chart (borrowed fromSkeptical Science, but you can make your own) comparing thousands of global measurements to the longest-running individual station, on Mauna Loa:

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    I literally cannot imagine a statement that would be more scientifically incorrect and humiliating than the one Professor Woodcock made. It's like saying you don't believe in the existence of cheese. And somehow I doubt such a person would be convinced if you did the scientific equivalent of slapping him across the face with a big round of Stilton.

    But the likes of Erick Erickson are patently uninterested in even the slightest scrap of scientific detail. All he wants is to claim the mantle of scientific legitimacy to justify his prior beliefs. Thus all the transparent puffery about Woodcock's "long and distinguished academic career" and so forth from Breitbart (not that these chumps had even heard of him before). Any publication that gave a hoot about science would realize that gleefully repeating such obviously false garbage is like defiling Isaac Newton's corpse.

    It's no wonder that only six percent of scientists are Republican.

    And it's also a good reminder that centrists like Clive Crook are completely wrong in their belief that scientists are somehow responsible for polarizing the issue of climate change. Erickson is one of the most influential conservatives in the country, and he simply doesn't care about getting the science right. He's a Lysenkoist to the bone.


    http://theweek.com/article/index/260711/this-is-a-perfect-example-of-why-scientists-dont-vote-
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    Yup, this what passes as science for the moron righty denier. Too funny.
     
    #321     Aug 22, 2014
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You really don't read very well, do you? Are you suggesting that you've never heard of the Atlantic Conveyor?
     
    #322     Aug 22, 2014

  3. No YOU don't know it. The scientists do. Don't confuse your stupidity with what science knows.

    Because you see jerm, you lying sack of shit, CO2 is GHG.
     
    #323     Aug 22, 2014

  4. No jerm is apparently unaware that the oceans have influence over air temps. Thus he brings up "the pause".

    Actually he does. He is just a Lysenkoist to the bone. Perfect example of one.
     
    #324     Aug 22, 2014
  5. fhl

    fhl

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    #325     Aug 22, 2014
  6. fhl

    fhl

    This guy says it's a scam, too.

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    #326     Aug 22, 2014
  7. That's nice. 97% of the world's climate scientists disagree with them along with virtually every science organization in the world.

    But feel free to listen to a few fools instead of virtually the entire science community. It's what I would expect from a right wing moron like you.
     
    #327     Aug 22, 2014
  8. jem

    jem

    read the articles moron... these are natural circulations and cycles.
    some scientists have even found they match up well with lunar cycles.

    So you have sun cycles and lunar cycles driving global temps for earths history... and you are trying to argue its man made co2... without providing any science.

    You are a such a troll.


     
    #328     Aug 22, 2014

  9. Here ya go. Got logic liar?

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    #329     Aug 22, 2014
  10. jem

    jem

    temperature leading co2. That is what I have been telling you the data shows.



     
    #330     Aug 22, 2014