How To Spot A Con Man

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by marketsurfer, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. Fancy expensive shoes are a def tell or anything flashy like giant pinky rings-- just saw two of these signals combined.

    I was just talking to a guy ( with the giant pinky ring and alligator shoes that had a pointy gold tip) asking for $50 mil for a real estate project, next it was $10 then finally $1 just to keep the deal alive.

    This all happened in 15 minutes, then i find out the guy isnt a principal or even working for a principal but was just a broker--- buyer beware!!
     
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    #11     Nov 25, 2015
  2. Q3D

    Q3D

    http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/november/fraud-science-papers-111615.html

    Even the best poker players have "tells" that give away when they're bluffing with a weak hand. Scientists who commit fraud have similar, but even more subtle, tells, and a pair of Stanford researchers have cracked the writing patterns of scientists who attempt to pass along falsified data.

    The work, published in the Journal of Language and Social Psychology, could eventually help scientists identify falsified research before it is published.

    There is a fair amount of research dedicated to understanding the ways liars lie. Studies have shown that liars generally tend to express more negative emotion terms and use fewer first-person pronouns. Fraudulent financial reports typically display higher levels of linguistic obfuscation – phrasing that is meant to distract from or conceal the fake data – than accurate reports.

    "We believe the underlying idea behind obfuscation is to muddle the truth," said Markowitz, the lead author on the paper. "Scientists faking data know that they are committing a misconduct and do not want to get caught. Therefore, one strategy to evade this may be to obscure parts of the paper. We suggest that language can be one of many variables to differentiate between fraudulent and genuine science."

    The results showed that fraudulent retracted papers scored significantly higher on the obfuscation index than papers retracted for other reasons. For example, fraudulent papers contained approximately 1.5 percent more jargon than unretracted papers.

    "Fradulent papers had about 60 more jargon-like words per paper compared to unretracted papers," Markowitz said. "This is a non-trivial amount."

    Some critics of a major price-action-theory educator believe their teachings are muddled with vagueness, obscurantism and jargon, although not necessarily in any similar manner to the subjects in this linked article.
     
    #12     Nov 25, 2015
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  3. londonkid

    londonkid

    There are grades of conmen. An out and out conman is a criminal. There are some very smart conmen out there who operate in the grey and borderline legal areas. An example might be a sofa company who buys materials and part manafactures in china then ships the parts to Italy where the product is then assembled and sold as Italian hand made. Actually when you start analysing where people spend money you will find all sorts of scams, some completely illegal but many more in the grey areas.
     
    #13     Nov 25, 2015
  4. Read Influence by Robert Cialdini. 6 of the tactics of persuasion are right there....
     
    #14     Nov 25, 2015
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  5. In other words, honest people speak/write simply. Liars embellish and expand to hide the truth. Victims find complicated answers more compelling and believable than simple answers, to their detriment.
     
    #15     Nov 25, 2015
  6. use and reply on your own ...intuition :confused: -- for the most part, it's usually right.

    This forum topic reminds me of a recent movie I watched: Heartbreakers 2001...a gold-digging comedy that takes place in Palm Beach, Florida.
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    #16     Nov 25, 2015
  7. Natuzzi?? :D:rolleyes:
     
    #17     Nov 25, 2015
  8. Guile

    Guile

    There are two conmen in this thread. One of them is Jennifer Love Hewitt:
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    #18     Nov 25, 2015
  9. Guile

    Guile

    http://www.vanityfair.com/unchanged/2012/07/wine-fraud-rudy-kurniawan-vintage-burgundies
    Fuck these rich bastards I say.
     
    #19     Nov 25, 2015
  10. dealmaker

    dealmaker


    Rearden Metal is that reference to Atlas Shrugged? Another tell is inconsistencies in their pitches.
     
    #20     Nov 25, 2015