Climate Change

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dbphoenix, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    South Miami is so fed up with climate inaction, it just voted to secede from Florida

    As the nation's 51st state, "South Florida" would address climate threats head-on


    LINDSAY ABRAMS


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    It’s come to this: pissed off at the state government’s lack of concern about climate change and frightened by the very real threat it’s facing from sea level rise, the city of South Miami has made moves to secede from the rest of Florida.

    This is a real, serious proposal, and it recently passed the South Miami City Commission with a 3-2 vote. The new state would consist of Florida’s 23 southern counties and would go by the name South Florida. Becoming its own, separate political entity, the city commission members explain, would allow it to devote its full attention to taking climate change seriously.

    The “situation is very precarious and in need of immediate attention,” the resolution reads, noting that many areas of South Florida are as low as 5 feet above sea level, putting them within the range of the projected 3 to 6 feet of sea level rise over the next century. North Florida, on the other hand, has an average elevation of 100 feet above sea level, leaving that half of the state unsympathetic to their plight. The creation of a new state, it argues, is therefore necessary to “the very survival of the entire southern region of the current state of Florida.”

    The resolution notes, as well, that this lack of attention to South Florida’s needs comes despite the fact that the region generates more than 69 percent of the state’s revenue and contains 67 percent of its population. South Miami Mayor Philip Stoddard was even more explicit in an interview with the Orlando Sentinel: “It’s very apparent that the attitude of the northern part of the state is that they would just love to saw the state in half and just let us float off into the Caribbean,” he said. “They’ve made that abundantly clear every possible opportunity and I would love to give them the opportunity to do that.”

    Oh, and they’d be taking Disney World with them.

    The irony, alas, is that even if this admittedly far-fetched proposal never comes to fruition, it’s possible we’ll lose the southernmost tip of Florida anyway.
     
    #331     Oct 23, 2014
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    São Paulo is the 7th largest city in the world. And it's running out of water

    Brad Plumer

    São Paulo, in southeast Brazil, is the largest city in South America and the 7th largest metropolitan region in the world, with more than 21 million people. The surrounding state is Brazil's richest, responsible for one-third of the country's GDP.


    And right now, the region is running dangerously low on water, thanks to the worst drought in eight decades.

    São Paulo's reservoirs have dwindled to less than 5 percent of their original capacity, 13 million people are facing water outages, and officials are warning that the area could face "collapse" if it doesn't rain soon — with businesses and households struggling to find fresh water.

    NASA's Earth Observatory recently posted satellite photos showing just how dire the situation has gotten.Water levels in the Jaguari Reservoir — one of five reservoirs that supplies water to some 10 million people — have plummeted between 2013 and 2014.
     
    #332     Oct 23, 2014
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So Florida is going to revert to the way it naturally was 200,000 years ago. I fail to see the problem.
     
    #333     Oct 23, 2014

  4. Of course you fail....no surprise there at all.
     
    #334     Oct 23, 2014
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Global Warming is Fake: 8 AGW Climate Change Facts Debunked by CFACT
    http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/global-warming-is-fake/2014/10/24/id/602969/

    Groups dedicated to efforts to prove global warming is fake usually focus on opposition to the claims that any climate change is caused by humans. Referred to as Anthropogenic Global Warming Theory, AGW is the idea that the earth naturally keeps a stable atmospheric temperature over time, and that human activity, primarily in the form of CO2 emissions from industrial activity is primarily responsible for the unhealthy warming of the earth’s atmosphere.

    The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow is a group that actively opposes the idea that Global Warming is caused by humans. According to CFACT, here are eight scientific reasons the group claims that proves global warming is fake.

    1. The world is getting colder not warmer: Scientific review of satellite data shows temperatures have “flat-lined” in the last two decades.

    2. Storms are not getting stronger: F3 tornadoes and hurricanes are both in decline in the U.S.

    3. The ice is doing just fine at the polls thank you: Antarctic and Arctic ice is not declining, but recovered and even increasing.

    4. Don’t worry about the polar bears: Polar bear numbers are higher than any time since the 1960s.

    5. The world’s water is stable: Droughts, floods, snows, and sea levels are all stable and not historically significant.

    6. Blame nature, not man: A variety of natural forces, including the tilt of the earth’s axis, volcanos, water vapor and cosmic rays all play together to contribute to the temperature of the atmosphere. CFACT says that man-made CO2 is only a small factor.

    7. Scientists don’t all agree on this stuff: CFACT points out that climatologists do not agree as wholeheartedly as those who promote global warming legislation proclaim. Among climatologists they cite as providing data counter to theories that human activity is making warming worse is Dr. John Christy, who CFACT quotes as saying, “About 75 percent of the states recorded their hottest temperature prior to 1955, and over 50 percent of the states experienced their record cold temperatures after 1940.”

    8. There have been other warm periods in human history long before the Industrial Revolution: CFACT points to the theory of a Medieval Warm Period that the Science and Public Policy Institute reported in 2009 as “real, global, and warmer than the present.”
     
    #335     Oct 25, 2014
  6. There is an astounding closed mindedness to ideas in the scientific community. The Solar system has an electrical model complete with energy flows and capacitances formed by the planets and all. One poor bastard was predicting events so well they had to ban him from the conferences!! Probably some modeling of the sun-moon-earth's energy interactions would shed some light here... oh and I almost forgot to express my absolute hatred for alarmist assholes with their GW moronic krap. I'm thinking some Moon worshippers are trying to put the Sun in a bad light. [no pun there at all] It's the best explanation to date of what motivates this s^&t at such high levels of government...
     
    #336     Oct 25, 2014
  7. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

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    ENVIRONMENT
    Climate Change, Corporations
    No. 6: Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (A.K.A. ClimateDepot.com)
    Meet the 12 loudest members of the chorus claiming that global warming is a joke and that CO2 emissions are actually good for you.
    —By Josh Harkinson

    | Fri Dec. 4, 2009 10:32 PM EST

    [​IMG]From 2006 until early this year, Marc Morano was the communications director for Senator James Inhofe's Environment and Public Works Committee, where he worked to back up the Oklahoma Republican's claimthat climate change is "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people." Morano periodically compiled the best ravings of crank bloggers, rebel meteorologists, and industry-funded denier groups and blasted them out to sympathetic reporters and lawmakers.

    After Inhofe lost the committee to a Democrat, Morano reemerged in April as the editor of ClimateDepot.com. The site functions much as his email list did, slapping sensationalistic headlines on links to questionable science and frothing "experts." In the past two weeks, it has devoted itself almost entirely to criticizing the Copenhagen talks and trumpeting Climategate. It recently posted a link to a spoof video called "Hide the Decline," a creation of the parody website Minnesotans for Global Warming.

    According to the Web traffic site Compete.com, ClimateDepot had as many as 168,000 unique visitors in a month, making it the most popular denial site. ClimateDepot is bankrolled by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, a nonprofit with a $1.5 million budget, which in turn has received money from Exxon, Chevron, and foundations tied to conservative billionaire and Clinton nemesis Richard Mellon Scaife [bold mine]. Morano says he "can't assess the credibility of everything" he publishes, "but I usually go by a trusted source." One of those sources is Anthony Watts, a former TV meteorologist from California, who runs WattsUpWithThat.com. Morano has trumpeted Watts' claims that data showing rising temperatures across the United States are simply the result of federal weather monitoring stations that are too close to heat sources like air conditioners. When government scientists humored Watts by excluding stations he considered "flawed" from their data, they found virtually no change in the overall temperature readings.

    "I think you'd have to talk to Anthony Watts to get a detailed rebuttal on that, but I still think that's a major issue," Morano says. (Watts has responded here and was debunked here.) "Anthony Watts has played a critical role in the climate debate in the innovative research he's done on these surface stations, and it's been badly needed and much appreciated."
     
    #337     Oct 25, 2014
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    A section of Miami is going to reverse climate change all on it's own are they?

    LOL
     
    #338     Oct 25, 2014
  9. wildchild

    wildchild

    What is the point of this picture? There was a downpour and some water accumulated in the street. What the hell does it have to do with climate change?
     
    #339     Oct 25, 2014
  10. 1. The world is getting colder not warmer: Scientific review of satellite data shows temperatures have “flat-lined” in the last two decades.


    Wrong. Very wrong. Completely wrong. When number one is wrong there is no reason to go further. Colder? Ha!

    The oceans contain 94% of the earths heat. To measure the heat gain of the earth the oceans are by far the best thing to measure.

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    #340     Oct 25, 2014