BMY

Discussion in 'Options' started by oldnemesis, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bristol-myers-bmy-stock-beat-154103073.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bristol-myers-squibb-reveals-regulatory-115822588.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bristol-myers-squibb-says-fda-121446144.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/chart/BMY

    Trade:
    With BMY at 75.56
    Jan '18 55/50 bull put spread for a net credit of $65
    Yield = 65/435 = 14.9% in 534 days or 10.2% annualized
    Prob = 90%
    Expectation = .9(65) - .05(435) - .05(218) = 58.5 - 21.8 - 10.9 = 25.8

    Price........... Profit / Loss.......... ROM %
    37.50............... (435.00)........... -85.10%
    48.43............... (435.00)........... -85.10%
    50.00............... (435.00)........... -85.10%
    54.35.................... 0.00............... 0.00%
    55.00.................. 65.00.............. 14.90%
    59.93.................. 65.00.............. 14.90%
    71.44.................. 65.00.............. 14.90%
    82.94.................. 65.00.............. 14.90%
    94.45.................. 65.00.............. 14.90%

    BMY is my favorite company in the world. I used to be a contractor for them and they essentially put me in business and kept me there until I sold my company.

    While all the people I used to work with have retired, I think good companies have good DNA and quality persists through the years.
     
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  2. Ryan81

    Ryan81

    Bristol has been a gem in my portfolio over the past few years. I've been long it since Aug. of 2012. I'm not much of one to go for leap options, but I like the idea of selling a strangle on it as an earnings play -- with the call side covered by the shares I already own, and with the put side, willing to pick up more shares at a lower price. Hmmm...
     
  3. filled at $64.

    Here's something that often happens to me when I use IB. I put in a limit order to give me $65 but got filled at $64. It's alright...it won't kill me...but this doesn't happen with other brokers. What do they have...a 'close enough' algorithm??
     
  4. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bristol-myers-drug-fails-lung-132956899.html

    Bristol-Myers drug fails lung cancer study, shares plunge

    We are holding a 55/50 bull put spread. The last price I have on BMY is 62.55.

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BMY

    Obviously this is a catastrophic occurrence for BMY. If the price stays above the 55 we will be OK and still make our profit. If price further decays we could have a large loss. Right now I could get out with pretty minimal loss. I have to decide.
     
  5. Ryan81

    Ryan81

    Wow yeah I'm quite surprised by this move. I took the opportunity to sell puts.
     
  6. Out for $86...loss = 86-64 = $22. Better to get out and cap loss.
     
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    I think traders overreacted. BMY is a quality company and they will be a good long term investment.

    I have been eying this stock for a while and I am actually considering long calls using this as an opportunity to get in at a reasonable price, just waiting for the IV to settle down some.
     
  8. Ryan81

    Ryan81

    May I suggest you try a risk reversal strategy... Sell a slightly OTM put to finance the purchase of an ITM call.
     
  9. I think you are right. Traders did overreact...including me.

    :)

    Buying calls here is probably not a bad idea. As for me...I stay away from stocks that have such precipitous price spikes. Besides, I feel the market as a whole is overextended and I don't like long positions right now.
     
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Yes, maybe this is the "be fearful" time. I am fearful too as this reminded me of the dot.com days. However right now the picking is good and it is very hard to think of getting out.

    Regards,
     
    #10     Aug 5, 2016