If you stand in front of my house and threaten to kill me, the cops will be notified as well. It's just that the President has better cops. Freedom of Speech does not cover the right to promise harm delivered upon another.
Obviously no one likes it when hate speech is targeted to them, me included. The problem is that while not perfect, allowing people to speak freely their hates is the better alternative to allowing someone or some entity the role of deciding what is and what is not acceptable. No one can do that fairly to everyone. You say there it simply requires more thought. Please provide your solution.
We do? We arrest people for speaking their mind every day? You folks are supposed to be liberals, for crying out loud. You are supposed to support tolerance and the person's right to speak their mind. It's republicans that I would expect would be behind telling people they don't have a right to say this or that.
I don't have to be a cook to tell you the food is not quite right. I won't pretend to know where the line should be drawn; I only know there should be one. Remember Justice Potter Stewart who said he would distinguish art from porn when he saw it? I think most of us have a pretty good idea when a line is being crossed. With that in mind, the important thing is to get an open dialogue going and to reach some meaningful agreement. Checks and balances.
True. But hate speech often alludes to it and, on occasion, incites it. Think of it as a gateway mechanism. The only ones who win are the haters. And that's never good.
Well then, please define "hate speech". Are pretty much all of Dphoenix's comments regarding Christianity hate speech? Are many comments wrt to so called climate deniers hate speech?
Exactly, the reason we dont want hate speech banned is because to a liberal hate speech is any speech that is critical of liberals or their protected classes. If liberals had their way, drawing muhammad would be considered a crime but throwing a crucifix in a jar full of piss would be considered art.
That's stupid. That's like saying anyone talking about drugs is the gateway to using drugs, or saying you wish you had your neighbor's car is akin to saying you will steal it. Saying you are against something or someone doesn't mean you are willing to cause harm to that something. Don't make up stuff to fit your narrative.
Read the very post of mine that you quoted. Start with the "cook" part. For the most part, I think dbphoenix points his finger at unending hypocrisy. You need to understand that tolerance does not mean accepting intolerance. Quite the opposite. As for hate speech, I think there is plenty here in P&R. Perhaps you will choose to deny it when you see it because it will likely come from your friends. (I guess we all have our biases.) There was a time when P&R's hate speech was moderated away to an extent, but now not so much.