Can day trading become an addiction since it is so similar to gambling?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Lloyd W. Coutee, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. Hooti

    Hooti

    I certainly understand that, and agree in both a practical and logical way.

    Mark Douglas talks about though... if one was raised religiously...

    I was raised an evangelical fundamentalist. Dancing... movies... and gambling... were sure fire ways to hell fire.

    I'm in the 'spiritual but not religious' camp and have been for some time, but I compensate for that early upbringing somewhat by technicalities. Some states tax various kinds of income, and gambling is taxed in a certain way. Some states don't tax poker winnings the same as gambling because there is a skill beyond random involved. I assume trading is a skill, so I just choose not to use the gambling terminology either.

    But if you equate gambling and risk -- trading has risk... and is at it's essence about risk... in that sense it is gambling. Even if I don't call it gambling, I don't want to take the risk out of trading. Mark Douglas talks about one of the great errors traders make is trying to take the risk out of trading.

    For example, moving your stop to break even as soon as you show the slightest profit makes you feel like you have no risk -- but it is one of the surest ways to fail.

    So even if I don't want to call what I do gambling, I want to embrace, accept and use... risk in a way that works for trading. Which is another way of saying to be the casino, and not the person in the casino for whom the odds work against them. Same thing RN said.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2015
    #51     Dec 17, 2015
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  2. Excellent question.
    It is worthwhile checking some "gamblers addicts" forum for unhealthy psychology that might shows up in trading. It is helpful to delineate some psy problems.
     
    #52     Dec 19, 2015
  3. pinfire

    pinfire

    I do not think one can do consistent greed in trading he has to suffer from loss due to this emotional state. Forex is like an addiction , we are habitual to watch market daily. Any time when we trade it is up to us how we do trading experienced traders set their psychology positively.
     
    #53     Feb 10, 2016
  4. Handle123

    Handle123

    I don't think it can become an addiction, but it should be more like Walmart hours, 364 days open 24/7 so I can trade more.

    Actually, one area that allowed me to turn the corner in scalping was at some point in ticks or in time to get to breakeven plus one tick stops, everyone has there own ah-ha moment.

    Anything can become an addiction if one allows it. Best to have set hours, then leave to do other activities, give old noodle time to rest.
     
    #54     Feb 10, 2016
  5. cornix

    cornix

    Yes it can and it does become one. Random gratification effect is exactly the same.
     
    #55     Feb 13, 2016
  6. Of course. Most would be traders are gamblers.

    I really like this quote from Trading & Exchanges by Harris which I've posted once before:

     
    #56     Feb 13, 2016
  7. Could actually relate to this , the more you win the more you feel the urge to trade more.
     
    #57     Jun 28, 2016
  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Which is why I do really well, for a period, the better I do, the worse I do, when it goes against me, trying to hold onto the doing really well.
     
    #58     Jun 28, 2016
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

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    #59     Jun 29, 2016
  10. Exactly-LOL-LOL.And drinking water can be addicting. And many people dont drink enough water; about 7 or 8 glasses /day.Market Maker's Edge book uses a 8 day, moving average.Good book= dont pay attention to the daytrading cover, much !! I gambled for some silver .25's, playing pool; but not many silver quarters anymore.Psycho babble says trading + gambling are the same-the 2 are not even in same universe.

    A REALTOR friend told me buying a certain lake from house ''was gambling''[NOT really gambling @ all -he meant it was too much risk, stupid size risk, stupid size risk !! I bought it not + sure did not business ''bet'' on it, as the WSJ lies, calling risk sell or buy, ''bets.
     
    #60     Jun 29, 2016