Understanding different types of leverage

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Aston01, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. Aston01

    Aston01

    Leverage seems to be a bit of a catch all term for a variety of different methods of financial gearing.

    1.) Derivatives for example have inherent leverage just due their nature of being representative unit of something larger (i.e. 1 stock option contract = 100 shares)

    2.) Margin is lending leverage where you're fronted additional capital relative to what you're putting up.

    Both would fall under the umbrella term of leverage, but they represent different placement of gearing in a financial equation which inherently effects the outcomes.

    I am trying to understand more about the topic and was wondering if there are other forms I am missing that apply to trading? Is there better terminology used to describe the different types of gearing?
     
  2. Debt is leverage..
     
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  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Derivatives typically are 100:1.
    Margin at 4:1.
    Tax structures involve leverage of t:1 where, if you make an investment of a dollar, then you can lever t back to you.

    (Like the old joke,.....
    "OMG!!! Look at these credit card bills!!!"
    'But Honey!!! Look how much I saved!' )
     
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  4. Aston01

    Aston01

    Is there any instrument with a (non-margin) higher leverage ratio then the 100:1 with derivatives?
     
  5. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Lots. I think NG is 1000:1? I fergit.
     
  6. Aston01

    Aston01

    What is NG?
     
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    That seems correct. It's 10 billion btu per contract, at 0.001USD per 1,000,000 btu price fluctuation (tick).

    So $10 per tick would be $0.001 per each million btu, at 10,000,000,000 btu per contract. That works out to 1000:1 leverage
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2017
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    Natural Gas on NYMEX.
     
  9. DeltaRisk

    DeltaRisk

    You only understand retail leverage.
    PM is risk leverage granted by your broker and the exchange. It isn't really leverage though, it's more risk capital.

    Haircut "leverage," is granted by the exchanges. You deal directly with a clearing firm. A broker, or clearing firm cannot change your haircut. Only the exchange can. That is an edge. You don't have to worry about margin calls anymore.
    *wink wink*
     
  10. JackRab

    JackRab

    Unless your risk blows out and you either need to deposit $ or reduce risk, forced by your clearing... not perse a margin call... but quite similar.
     
    #10     Oct 24, 2017