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Toronto Traders Hook Up Nov 29

  1. The next Toronto Traders Hook Up will be held on November 29 at The Fox and Fiddle pub in the new Holiday Inn very near St. George station at 7pm. Detailed directions will follow. Tachyon will make a short presentation and I'm really looking forward to it, as this very experienced trader has helped me tremendously in my trading.

    The 7pm earlier start time was requested so that some of you may participate in the Happy Hour Specials.

    We ask that those of you that do NOT order drinks nor food, and only order water, to please leave a tip for the waitress.

    Here is the website of the bar. www.bloorfox.com

    Directions: You may want to print this out.
    Get off at St. George Station and use the exit called St. George St.. This exit is only accessible on the North/South platform. As spoon as you are outside turn left and head towards Bloor st. At Bloor turn right and soon you willl see the familiar Holiday Inn gree signs. The pub is on the main floor. It should take you about 2 minutes from St. George Station.

    Hope to see you there. Who is in?
  2. Why are we changing Locations?
  3. Some thought that Pauper's was too loud. I thought that it was okay, but I can't argue when a FEW people said it. There will be a hockey game that night, so it may be loud again.
  4. In italian -- inuendo.

    btw -- Paupers also had cramped seating arrangements --besides the loud noise. Also, its good to check out other places so as not to get stuck to one place -- a metaphor for not getting stuck on one trading system. As the markets constantly change so should the bars we pick....

    Also as TO politely said, those who attend and order only water should leave a tip for the waiters -- but since the pub has kindly allowed us to use their space, which has a cost invloved for them -- it would be appropriate that one should order something -- and tip the waiters well--so we keep on good terms with the pub...

    Other social norms should also be pointed out as the need arises in future threads by those who atttend -- of course in a polite manner...
  5. I'm in.
  6. Year-End Get-Together

    As promised back at the Sep hook-up, the Canadian Society of Technical Analysts is having an open house at the Strathcona Hotel 'Pub'. Date is 19-Dec. You are all invited! Time is from 5PM onwards.

    Please register at:


    There is no cost to attend. Finger foods and a drink will be offered.

    The Strath is located just North of Front St. on York.

    Hope to see you there.

  7. Although at the Toronto ET hook ups we are a bit careful and sensitive to not have any sales presentations done in our get togethers, we are certainly open to receive good and worthwhile information.

    Hence with that in mind, I would have to reconmend the invitation by the CSTA on Dec 19 -- its free for our group --and the CSTA is a established and reputable educational networking Society.

    The CSTA get together is however meant to introduce new members to their group -- so one should not be surprised about that.

    I am pretty sure I will be attending and hope to see others from our group there also.

    I think also it is a good point of discussion in our next hook up to discuss how we should handle endorsing other events. Otherwise, we could be getting endorsments every five minutes...
  8. After meeting "over_invested" at the Toronto Hook up, I agree with pbw that this invitation would benefit traders. Not only is over_invested very knowledgeable, but he is very approachable to all levels of traders.
  9. Guys,

    I suggests that we move the Toronto Hook up date to Thursday Nov 22/07, because it is American Thanksgiving and Friday will be a very slow day for the markets. So having a couple of pints becomes a non-event.:D
  10. So finally Vanquish reveals himself. He is more interested in having some pints than making money in the markets. I knew there was something fishy about him... an alcholic trader is what we may have in hand here folks.

    Personally for me I may be out of town on the 22nd --not sure yet --so I 'd prefer the 29th. Making last minute changes is also usually a tricky affair...Similar to when you enter your trade set up and then when in the trade you change your stop --and don't follow your plan. You usually have a loosing trade.

    In fact this is exactly what happened to me a few days ago in a trade I was in. I was certain I was going to get stopped out, so I decided to exit and have a smaller loss. However, as it turns out, my stop was not hit by one meager point and my trade would have been profitable had I stayed the course.....

  11. PBW,

    lol...your not going to Cuba again r you:D Anyways I was just putting it out there for all to decide
  12. we will have let TO decide however since he is organizing it... now back to the markets.....
  13. btw, just a quick mention, most pubs seem to have their half price specials from 3 - 7pm -- so for those who want to take advantage of them need to show up earlier than 7pm -- just make sure you find a good table for the rest who show up later....
  14. I'm sorry, but I cannot change the date unless there are MANY people that cannot make it that night. The reason that it stands at Nov 29, is that I know of at least a couple of people who may be coming from out of town, from far, and are trying to make arrangements.

    But I have a suggestion for Vanquish. Perhaps he can discover the delights of Diet Coke to satisfy his thirst.
  15. It was just an idea, but thanks for the cheap shots from you and Pbw...lol
  16. Don Bright In Toronto

    Hi all (again). per discussions started in this group, <b>Don Bright</b> is coming to Toronto and will be presenting with his colleague Rob Friesen of PairCo on 30-Jan-2008 (4:30-5:30PM). Yes, this is a CSTA event, but please do not consider this an ad. I thought it would be of interest to everyone because Don posts here. There will be no other CSTA event notices. to sign-up, visit http://www.csta.org and follow the links. there is no charge for CSTA members and first time attendees.

  17. Jeff, if one attends the Dec 19th function, does that count as first time attendance --which means to attend Don Bright's Jan 30 event will involve a cost? If so, then some may prefer to skip the Dec 19 event and attend only Don Bright's talk.
  18. Hey Guys,

    I just stumbled across this thread. I think it's great that local Toronto traders are meeting monthly. Do I have to register to attend these meetings? I am interested in attending the next one at the Fox and Fiddle. Thanks in advance.
  19. Hi Tradehard,

    No, you don't have to register. Just show up.
  20. the December event doesn't count, so, per your question, the Jan event will be free of charge.


  21. I'll be there
  22. Here is an interesting quote I stumbled onto. I thought others might also be interested:

    The Emotional Problem

    Trader's attitude to their potential and existing positions is often a great determinant of success. As every trader knows, the moment a trade is executed, everything is different. That is the point at which it becomes real, no longer digits on a screen and numbers in an account. Now expectation is joined by anticipation. The brain is joined by the heart. Reason is joined by emotion. You exchange detachment for attachment.

    When you have an open position and you are looking to close it, you will either have a profit or a loss. The emotions relating to each are quite different. For instance, when sitting on a loss many traders experience hope that the position will turn around because they fear and deny that it may not. It is for you to recognize these emotions and to discard them. Your judgment has to be based on detached reason relating to your analysis of the company.

    How you behave once you have an open position is all important. Without clear thinking you could exit too soon or too late. Your key concern with an open position is timing your exit. Of course there are times when you are deciding whether to add to a position, but generally you are concerned with exit. With an open position, you are concerned with closing the position. In order to do that, an open position requires an open mind.

    "The key is to be intellectually honest. You have to think of every day as a clean slate. You've got to forget about your loss or how much you paid-you have to treat each day as a completely new day. You have to start everyday with a blank page. Mark to market should be the rule so you start each day afresh. There is no expected profit or loss on the book so you have to start from scratch each morning," says Oppetit.
  23. I do 500 trades/day... it's all f*cking automatic.

    I might have to think longer than 10 seconds... for maybe 5-10% of my trades.

    People who over analyze their thinking...
    "the brain is joined by the heart"... (roll eyes)...
    Probably do not have much of an advantage... if any...
    And show just go do something they are actually good at.
  24. Just a reminder about this thursday's Toronto hook up. Remember, it starts at 7PM!! Not 7:30pm.
    Details are on the first page of this thread.
  25. Hey Guys

    Ill be giving a short presentation on Nasdaq trading and will go through an entire days trade, as per my own trading sheet for one day this month.

    I will provide hand outs for all those who attend.


    Nafeez a.k.a TachyonTrader
  26. Looking forward to it.
  27. I am also looking forward to Tachyon's presentation -- I would urge new people to also come out who have been considering to attend --just let us know you are attending so we have an idea of what numbers to expect -- Tachyon's experience (without putting Tachyon on a pedestal) is real expereince trading.

    I would also ask Tachyon if you could give a short summary of your trading method. Since I beleive you are more a discretionary trader --what instincts do you rely on when you enter and more importanly exit a trade. What indicators do you use if any --and what rules do you go by --if also you have any.---cheers, Pbw.
  28. Count me in! I'll be there!
  29. Do any prop traders show up?
  30. Yes. Actually one of the attendeees runs a reputable prop firm.
  31. one of the regular attendees runs a prop firm?????
    which firm?

    - mnx
  32. He reads this post, so if he wants to answer he will. Otherwise if you join us, he will introduce himself and you can converse with him.

    Hope to see you there.
  33. I'll be there as well
  34. If Marcus the elephant hunter is going I am in:D
  35. I'm afraid it is different Marcus
  36. Yes, vanquish. You are talking about mmmmarkus.

    marcus1ca, please excuse Vanqush. He is not the brightest in the group. When you meet him tonight, you will see what I mean.
  37. Sorry about that marcus1ca, and TOwoman who ever said you had to be bright to be in the trading game...lol:D
  38. Sorry guys but Hedge Fund industry is busy,unpredictable and never sleep. Some late conferece call came up and I can't meet you tonight. I'll try to make it next time.
  39. That's okay. Things come up. Maybe next time.
  40. Looking forward to join the toronto traders gathering in the month of december. Thanks
  41. There is not a hook-up in December, but people will be attending the CSTA Christmas party on December 19. You might want to check that out at www.csta.org

    January will be our next hook-up. Hope to see you there.
  42. I will participate on the next meeting as well.

    Not trying to hijack this nice thread, I was wondering if you guys could let me know what you use for backfill of Canadian stocks... I've been using QT + IB Backfill but is erroneous and slow when dealing with many stocks... you can reply on this thread if you prefer:

  43. I just came upon this thread as well, and am thrilled to find a group that gets to-gether on a monthly basis. I'll watch for the January get to-gether, and will also attend the CSTA event. As a past member, I can vouch for the caliber of their presentations.
  44. Try to make the January meeting, Sumosam. Details should be released soon by Elitetrader handle pbw.
  45. We meet on the forth thursday every month -- so technically this makes it Jan 24th --- A posting will be put up in the new year.
  46. Thanks for the heads up about the date:D
  47. Merry Christmas to all.