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The Tao Of Trading?

  1. After sitting on the floor at Border's the other night reading the "Idiot's Guide to Zen", I think I have that shit down. Seems like just sittin' Indian style, and not thinking about anything is the ticket. Hell throw in some herb, and that sums up my collage experience. But Taoism seems like it's another story. Don't hear about any B-ball coaches nicknamed Tao-masters. Can Commisso or someone (please not Aphie) get something going here about Tao and how it's applications can enhance intuition and expand the life experience.
  2. oh boy :eek:

    what am I the ET zen boy??? This is the 4th post today about me and eastern thought :( :mad:
  3. SEE! what'd i tell ya! u are ET's resident grasshopper!
  4. Yes Danny boy you did! :D
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  6. These five steps to should bring you closer to enlightenment:

    http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/march98/tao1.html (1/5) Taoism - Ageless Wisdom for A Modern World
    http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/april98/tao.html (2/5) Te - The Principle of Inner Nature
    http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/may98/tao.html (3/5) The Yin-Yang Principle of Harmony and Change
    http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/june98/tao.html (4/5) The Wu-Wei Principle
    http://www.jadedragon.com/archives/july98/tao.html (5/5) Taoism and the Sage

    "Study the cat, Saihung. Everything you need to learn, she knows already." -- Deng Ming-Dao, "The Wandering Taoist"
  7. pabst,

    just in case you didn't know---- tao is pronounced dow. interesting aye ?

    tao jones,

  8. Phil Jackson, nickname "Zen Master", Coach LA Lakers, Former coach Chicago Bulls, 9 NBA championships as a head coach.

    The following excerpt is from this article: http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/Aficionado/people/fe1098.html

    For Jackson, meditation is not just a sterile spiritual practice. He's convinced that the benefits also influenced his coaching. "The tighter your mind is," Jackson believes, "and the more you try to force your thinking into a constricted space or direction, the more frantic your mind becomes because it wants to jump from thought to thought. The truth is that you can only settle down your mind by providing a large pasture for it to run around in. Among other things, meditation has taught me that I am bigger than my mind. I certainly believe in boundaries, but I want my boundaries to be spacious enough to allow for extreme flexibility. So when I'm coaching, I try not to let myself get too rigid. My own personal tendency is to be fairly tight, precise and dogmatic, but a dictatorial coach can frighten his team. My daily meditation practice frees me from habitual behavior, allows me to be a little loose, to be open to having fun, and to react more to the breath of the moment." While coaching that meant trying not to get seized by preconceived game strategies, so that he could call plays and make substitutions on impulse. The practice also allowed him to be more open to assistants' advice and to "the immediate flow of the game at hand," he claims.

    Clearly, most professional athletes talk about peak performance as being centered in a mental state that is exceptionally calm, yet vibrant and alert.

    The successful trader, when he is on, is calm, alert, vibrant, and in touch with the movement of the market. He is above his fear, greed, and ego. He is able to make decisions without hesitation, without regret, without prejudice.

    The Tao teaches that being centered, unattached to gain or loss, allows man to flow in tune with the waves of life. Efficient and effective action naturally flows from this state of detachment. The results of the action, are then most in touch with the natural flow of life, which is progressive and spiritual in nature.

    If this is not at the heart of successful trading, I don't know what is.

  9. The Market is like a flowing river, free to follow its own course.

    Knowing this the Master doesn't try to swim against the current,
    doesn't try to bend the Market to his own will.

    Instead he observes the flow, and jumping in, allows himself to be carried to profit.

  10. I retract my statement
  11. Some of the taomasters have ascended. Some achieved some degree of immortality. After that they retreated to a mountaintop honing their psychic powers.
  12. It's an interesting observation. Why historically has the standared of living in geographical areas where Buddhism was strong been so low? And why did the standard of living in areas where the reformation took hold rise so rapidly?
  13. A more interesting question would be:

    Is the concept of a "standard of living" that most Americans embrace and seek, the same as the principles for a "standard for living" that Buddha taught?
  14. But how to make sure that these stories are real and not just fairy-tales of some gurus or their followers?

    Does anyone have a good, reliable source?
  15. right, that's the question I was asking.
  16. You don't need tao or anything spiritual to enhance intuition. Anyone can have it good guy or bad. Tao and stuff like that is a teaching you go to if you want to figure out how to use your intuition the good way.

    And that's what we were talking about, man's view of money and wealth, and it's importance or it's non importance.

    But don't get it confused with intuition. Anybody can have power, it's what you do with it that matters.
  17. your point is valid. there needs to be a mix between the east and west. it is difficult to reconcile the two distinct philosophies, but it can be done on a personal level. what we need is german engineering and eastern soul. hope this makes sense.

    tao jones,

  18. Why do we need a mix of the two? Oil and water do not mix.

    The eastern philosophy is complete in itself, and those who understand it fully know that what the west offers is not something needed for their path.

    The pure, unadulterated eastern path has not changed since the beginning. It was complete, it is complete, and it will always be complete in its pure form. People have been practicing that path for quite a long time without the materialism the west offers.

    If people really think they can absorb themselves in all the fruits of this world and it's temporal nature, and at the same time live the spiritual life that eastern wisdom offers, they are deeply confused and practicing self deception of the highest level.

    The heart of materialism and the heart of true eastern spiritualism are on opposite ends of the spectum. They are not of the same substance, and they do not mix. What you think of spiritual, is actually contained within the realm of materialism, and falls into different psychic realms within your own mind, or in the celestial realms, or within the confines of your own soul. It has nothing to do with real spiritualism, which is beyond your own mind, beyond your own soul, and beyond the reach of any material being.

    It all depends on where your heart is actually. Sure you can live in this world, we have to, but a truly spiritual soul seeking lasting happiness is not attached to this world, his heart is not in this world, as his goal is to find a liberation from the bondages of the never ending cycle of material life and death.

    You can only serve one master, you can only move in one direction, either in the direction of this world, or in the direction of the Divine world which is not material.
  19. deep and insightful, as usual 777. however to the extreme--if i choose to apply some eastern principles to my decidely western goals there is no conflict in my mind. one can have material things without worshipping same, as one can seek enlightenment without doing without.

    all the best to you my friend,

  20. Children can dress up like their parents and pretend they are at an adult dinner party. They can apply makeup, and use their imagination...but they remain children without real understanding of what it is to be an adult. They mimic the form of adults, acting out what they see on the surface, but have no knowledge of the inner life of their parents.

    Only you and God really know what your heart is most attached to, in what direction you are really moving....

    whether you are running on the treadmill of the temporal material illusions of life, or stopping to surrender to the real and everlasting.
  21. Scarecrows and apples meet Mr. Constricted...

    Tao is most definately not a philosophy or teaching, The Tao Te Ching and The Inner Chapters are no more philosophy than Waldens Pond...
  22. Man you are messed up. I hope you're kidding. Materialism is just as spiritual as pure meditation in a cave is as spiritual as eating a hotdog watching the Cubs lose is as spritual as bowling or flying a kite with your kid.

    If you think they are like water and oil, then that's what shrinks make their living on. People all split up.

    Yeah, like I was saying, unity. In mind, in the world, between people and things. I sure hope you're kidding. That's the way I tried to live when I was young and a broad broke my heart so I said the hell with it, I'll just go be spiritual.
  23. right, what'd I say? Waldens Pond, see, now THAT"S philosophy.

    You sure you're talking about the same tao? I mean the paperback version.

    Anybody know of a good way to keep everything unorganized?
  24. oh yeah, you're kidding. I feel better now. Good one. You had me worried.

    You like to do that don't you? Play jokes. Well, you're good at it, I'll say that. Sort of like a fast change artist. He can never take you for your money unless their is some greed in you. That's what he uses to get inside your head and mess it up while he takes your money.

    How do I know this? Well, it aint because I'm sharp.
  25. Like I said----> SCARECROWS AND APPLES...

    And another ones gone and...

    Bedtime, time to turn in, but turn into what?

    I wonder who is the most incoherent, yourself or that tsaimoto cat?
  26. I'm probably the most incoherent, But I never think about me, because I am selfless. As a matter of fact that's my mantra. I just say it over and over again

    I am selfless
    I am selfless

    (it helps if you do it standing in front of mirror)

    If you see your self disappearing, then stop, because you might be becoming REALLY selfless, I mean like no more, vamoose, ixnay, asta la prego, salsa da my oh, me oh my oh where did you go now?
  27. This was beautiful, thank you for posting.