The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by SouthAmerica, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. December 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Major General Charles J. Dunlap Jr. (born June 16, 1950)

    Dunlap wrote an essay in 1992 called “The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012” in which he claims that the blurring of the military role of the armed forces into civilian missions might be dangerous to democracy and civilian government.

    His assay starts as follows:

    “It is the year 2012. The American military has carried out a successful coup d'etat”.



    Major General Charles Dunlap – August 8, 2011

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  2. December 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Here is some food for thought:


    Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely, White House Threatens Veto
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473.html


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    December 8, 2011
    NDAA's World Wide Declaration of War on The People: Alex Jones Sunday Edition

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    Alex Takes Calls from Police & Military Complying with NDAA

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    2012 National Defense Act Is 'Terrifying' – December 2, 2011
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-...12-national-defense-act-is-terrifying-2011-12


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    2012 National Defense Act Is 'Terrifying' – December 1, 2011

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    Senate wants martial law in America now! Bye-Bye Constitutional rights; Hello Camp Fema (11/30/2011)

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    Trends In The News: The Gang Of 100 Strike Again 6 December 2011 Gerald Celente

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    There are 2 versions of Bill Number S.1867 for the 112th Congress. Usually, the last item is the most recent.

    Bill Text Versions - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - S.1867
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:




    Bill 2 of 2
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:2:./temp/~c11233ksy1::


    Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012)
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:SN01867:@@@S

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.01867:



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  3. December 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: I wrote the following in August 2002 regarding the U.S. Constitution.

    The U.S. Constitution is what makes the difference between the United States and everybody else.

    The day the U.S. Constitution dies, that signals the end of the United States.


    Brazzil Magazine – August 2002
    "Brazil and the Bully”
    Written by Ricardo C. Amaral
    http://brazilandthebully.blogspot.com/2011/12/brazil-and-bully.html

    ...The Constitution of the United States with its Bill of Rights served well the needs of the American people for the last 215 years. This US Constitution was one of the greatest documents in world history. I am sorry to see the American people allowing the destruction of such a great document in the name of fighting terrorism.

    Benjamin Franklin, one of the founding fathers of the US nation, once said: "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety". Since September 11, 2001 the US government took many measures—including the US Patriot Act and the formation of the Homeland Security with its special powers, which overrule the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights. I hate to see the United States becoming a totalitarian state with the blessing of the American people.



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  4. I'm always telling Americans to quit worrying about everything and to rally around the Bill of Rights.. if you don't have your freedom you don't have much. If you have a roof over your head, 3 square meals, a society with rule of law and your freedoms, it's about as good as it needs to be...

    Americans vote against the opposing party much more than they vote for anything in particular. Meanwhile the Republicans redefine freedom as something that has to be earned and they trash the constitution with their war on drugs and seizures of property without due process. Democrats want to tell us what we can and cannot say and talk about guns being a bad thing in the hands of private citizens, practice politics by winning by any means and have a death grip on the media which then disseminates pure disinformation and misinformation bought and paid for by the highest bidding, pro-socialism entities...

    Intellectually, the US sucks, and that for a very fundamental reason: the food supply is devoid of a few key ingredients that are necessary for healthy brains...

    But quoting Military Leaders? They are more out of touch with reality than anybody on the planet. They spend their lives creating what-if scenarios and eventually they might believe their own fantasizing..

    And Gerald Celente? He's a legend in his own mind for sure, he gets on the late night radio show and makes predictions that are typically less than accurate, but hey, his book can go to the number one seller spot on Amazon overnight and stay there for about three days, enough to bank some coin.. It's funny, his money got lost by MF Global, I never heard whether he got it back or not...

    And Alex Jones? Gadz.... you could give him a story about puppies, sunshine, flowers and trees and he could twist it into a conspiracy with dark overlords...

    But they are essentially correct, we've seen the bubble bursting part of the Kondratieff long cycle and next is a ride right over the falls into the churning waters below.. hang on to your hats folks, it's real...

    FEMA camps, martial law... other countries went into SHTF historical territory and never had anything like that... besides, when Obama came on the scene the US citizenry bought more ammo than the production lines could produce for what, two years nonstop? Instituting martial law might be just a little bit of a sticky wicket in the US of A..
     
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    yg10

    Funny thing that TV channel called Russia Today almost does not speak about Russia but mostly predicts troubles for America the same way as soviet propagandists did that for ~50 years (and SouthAmerica is doing for 7 years on ET).
     
  6. Fractals 'R Us: Intellectually, the US sucks, and that for a very fundamental reason: the food supply is devoid of a few key ingredients that are necessary for healthy brains...

    But quoting Military Leaders? They are more out of touch with reality than anybody on the planet. They spend their lives creating what-if scenarios and eventually they might believe their own fantasizing..

    And Gerald Celente? He's a legend in his own mind for sure, he gets on the late night radio show and makes predictions that are typically less than accurate, but hey, his book can go to the number one seller spot on Amazon overnight and stay there for about three days, enough to bank some coin.. It's funny, his money got lost by MF Global, I never heard whether he got it back or not...

    And Alex Jones? Gadz.... you could give him a story about puppies, sunshine, flowers and trees and he could twist it into a conspiracy with dark overlords...

    But they are essentially correct, we've seen the bubble bursting part of the Kondratieff long cycle and next is a ride right over the falls into the churning waters below.. hang on to your hats folks, it's real...


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    December 12, 2011

    SouthAmerica: On December 2, 2011 the Financial Times (UK) published an article about “Barnes & Noble”. Quoting from that article:

    “Perhaps it's not the decline of traditional retail or of the physical book. Perhaps Americans, brains corroded by reality television, simply don't much like reading. On Thursday, Barnes & Noble reported that in the same quarter that its main bricks ans mortar competitor, Borders, closed up shop, its retail sales were nonetheless slightly down.”


    Regarding the Military Leaders

    The “Military Industrial Complex” is the most important piece of the US economy with a huge ramification to the US economy regarding the US government budget, the US banking and Insurance industry, its internal politics, and foreign affairs. And the “Military Industrial Complex” represents the largest piece of what is left of manufacturing inside the US economy.

    In a nutshell: without the U.S. “Military Industrial Complex” there's not much left of the US economy to keep the United States among the main economies of the world – The US would be just an ordinary country with a very mature economy, with a collapsing and obsolete infrastructure, and fast aging population = nothing to write home about it.

    I came across Gerald Celente in the early 1980's and found out that he is a very good trend forecaster. He is a little eccentric when you listen to his speeches. But he is a very smart fellow.

    Regarding Alex Jones, conspiracy theories is his niche, even though he is in the right track about a lot of stuff that he covers on his radio and TV show.

    Most European leaders, and just about everybody involved with the US government are completely clueless that the “Kondratieff long cycle” is here and the stages of its long cycle is on schedule and it has been underway for many years, and there' s nothing they can do about it other than place some superficial band-aids to keep the massive necessary economic adjustments from taking place in the economy and in the collapsing financial system.


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    Yg10: Funny thing that TV channel called Russia Today almost does not speak about Russia but mostly predicts troubles for America the same way as soviet propagandists did that for ~50 years


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    SouthAmerica: TV channel called “Russia Today” also has many news features about the problems inside Russia.

    I am the one who don't post on ET the videos pointing out the problems inside Russia.

    But if you go to the “Russia Today” TV channel on the web there's a lot of material for you to watch about Russia and the problems regarding that country.


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  7. December 12, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Yg10:

    Here is the latest news from “Russia Today” TV channel on the web explaining how the US mainstream media has become completely obsolete:



    December 11, 2011

    RT as Public Enemy ? - Top U.S. Zionist Media Boss UnHappy With Declining Influence...

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  8. Paul Craig Roberts: We have a republican party that is a Gestapo party – December 19, 2011

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  9. Respectfully SouthAmerica your posting style is very hard to read
     
  10. December 27, 2011

    SouthAmerica: If the American Military Coup of 2012 becomes a reality in the United States as Major General Charles J. Dunlap Jr. suggested on his essay, then I hope this general will be in charge.


    Biography: Anthony Charles Zinni
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Zinni




    The New World Order

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    Anthony C. Zinni, Retired U.S. Marine Corps four-star general

    Zinni, a former commander in chief of U.S. Central Command, gave his first public talk, billed as "The New World Order," as a Frank H.T. Rhodes Class of 1956 Professor in Kennedy Hall's Call Auditorium April 15.


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    #10     Dec 27, 2011