The odds of day trading yourself to a profit are lower than you expect"

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by lawrence-lugar, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. Mtrader

    Mtrader

    But the problem is that 90% think they are unique.
     
    #81     Aug 22, 2016
  2. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    sure, but what they think in reality does not matter what matter is what they are :)

    so this is the statistics about the odds of finding uniqueness in the sea of mediocrities
     
    #82     Aug 22, 2016
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  3. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Vincent van Gogh sold only one painting during his lifetime.
     
    #83     Aug 22, 2016
  4. Mtrader

    Mtrader

    He had to die before there was money made.

    I hope I will no have to do the same. :confused: Do 1 profitable trade, die and then the next generation will live wealthy with my tradingsystem...:mad:
     
    #84     Aug 22, 2016
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  5. qxr1011

    qxr1011


    all this statistics in reality should be boiled down to the simple, like a cucumber, conclusion: the multiplication of money in the stock market - it is an enterprise so specific and unique in its requirements to "persons involved" that can be dealt with (successfully) only by very special "players", i.e. people with specific, "baked" by the nature brain, will, intuition and diligence.

    The fact is that even without explanation it is obvious that a girl of 16 years with a 200 pounds weight will not be a ballet dancer, regardless how much she likes ballet, and no matter how many did she hire ballet coaches. The fact that not all will be able to increase the capital on the market, did not initially obvious, and even the opposite - emotionally crushed by glitter examples of very few and efforts by the financial industry to attract suckers on the market..

    Someone should tell her that girl - you first need to pass the weigh-in, and only then , perhaps, to take lessons and other pas-de-deux...

    Many years ago i posted a list of criterias how a wannabe-trader should be weight-in before he would consider to enter the fray.

    lest see if i can find it.
     
    #85     Aug 22, 2016
  6. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    More a- priori thinking coming our way.
     
    #86     Aug 22, 2016
  7. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    How about a list of famous or successful people in their field who were told early on, "You're never gonna make it in this business!" but went on to succeed anyway.
     
    #87     Aug 22, 2016
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  8. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    The sportscaster Al Michaels said that his Jewish mother used to come to his school and get him excused so they could go to the track and bet on the ponies. She obviously must have ruined any chances he had of becoming an accountant. Or a ballerina, for that matter.
     
    #88     Aug 22, 2016
  9. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    And that's how a wannabe trader (the man who is going to live from trading his own money) should be weight-in, :

    A. Money. There is a trading minimum of $50k in account plus the money needed to live all the time while learning....do not have it - not suitable.

    B. Time. There is required minimum 5 years (probably more) of life, during which you will only deal with self-learning of trading for 8-10 hours a day.. do not have time - not suitable.

    C. The necessary qualities from highest to lowest.

    1 Maverick

    2 Egomaniac

    3 I don't give a fuck" kinda guy :)

    4 Do not like and do not want to work with people

    5. One who can and like to take risks.

    6 Unchanging, constant belief in yourself and in your own strength (screams "Help me!" like I sometimes see on the forums should not come from you)

    7. recognize in principle the concept of game as a lifestyle , with consequent results of instability, loss or collapse

    8. thinking outside of the box and the ability to independently search for the solutions

    9 ability and desire to go his own way and not focus on the words and opinions of others

    10 ability to create intuitive concepts based on the lessons learned

    11 ability to visualization and abstraction from it .

    12 diligence

    13 will,volition

    If one would sift all the samples that was taken for that statistics through the sieve of those parameters, i suspect about 90% would be disqualified :)
     
    #89     Aug 22, 2016
  10. Xela

    Xela


    My father (who is in the industry) started teaching me when I was 13/14, but didn't let me have a real-money account until I was 18.

    But there's a (quite recent) thread here, somewhere, about someone teaching his much younger son to trade.
     
    #90     Aug 22, 2016
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