The Dunning-Kruger effect

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by futurecurrents, May 4, 2013.

  1. describes a cognitive bias in which people perform poorly on a task, but lack the meta-cognitive capacity to properly evaluate their performance. As a result, such people remain unaware of their incompetence and accordingly fail to take any self-improvement measures that might rid them of their incompetence.

    Charles Darwin once said, 'Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than knowledge,' and Dunning and Kruger seem to have proven this point. In light of this, it suddenly becomes clear why public debate can be so excruciating. Debates on climate change, the age of the Earth or intelligent design are perfect real-life examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It beautifully explains the utter confidence of those who, with no expertise, remain stubborn in their views regardless of overwhelming evidence. It makes you want to shake them by the collar and scream about how stupid they are. But evidence shows that's not the best strategy.
     
  2. pspr

    pspr

    What's your point? That your stupid ignorance is not your fault?

    <img src=http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad158/FrankRob/FR_StupidPeople.jpg>
     
  3. Debates on climate change, the age of the Earth or intelligent design are perfect real-life examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It beautifully explains the utter confidence of those who, with no expertise, remain stubborn in their views regardless of overwhelming evidence. It makes you want to shake them by the collar and scream about how stupid they are.


    Overwhelming evidence.

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html
     
  4. pspr

    pspr

  5. wjk

    wjk

    What is your expertise in climate change? How much experience do you have in data collection, modeling, etc...? What makes you an expert? You want to attack everyone who disagrees with you? Why do you think you are so much smarter? Fill me in.
     
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    A useless garbage management degree and he installs heat and air units.

    Literally.
     
  7. wjk

    wjk

    FC really showed his true colors and lack of understanding last night. I pointed out an occurring weather anomaly, and tied it to the other record cold events that have occured in the last few years, and I got insulted to the max for it. He stated they are nothing more than weather outside my door, no matter how often they occur, and no matter how many times. For someone who acts like an expert on climate change, that statement itself is about as stupid as it gets.

    He later claimed we are due for an ice age in 1000 years or so (after I indicated that such events are lead up to over hundreds of years with increasing events such as the current cold snap, though in reality they can develop faster, in as little as a few hundred.) I present a possibility that actually might correlate his prediction, yet I'm incredibly stupid! Why? Because I suggested the possibility, just the possibility Co2 might not make a difference regarding the next ice age, a theory he disagrees with.

    The fact is, he constantly shows trends regarding Co2 (which it so happens, I don't dispute) but if a potential diverging trend challenges it, he blows a fucking gasket! Reminds me of a two year old about to crap his pants if he doesn't get his way. And today, he starts this thread to essentially insult everyone who disagrees with him while attempting to elevate his own intelligence. Very transparent and childlike.

    He proved to me last night that he is great at copying, pasting, and quoting scientific material, some of which is pretty good stuff actually, but really has very little understanding of it. He doesn't realize that changing trends in weather can verify or dispute current thinking and models. There's more to it than ice samples, tree rings, etc.

    And like all progressives, he is a humorless legend in his own mind. I had previously enjoyed some of my conversations with him, but now...
     
  8. Trying to state that anyone who intelligently looks at the data and based on the scientific evidence comes to the conclusion that AGW does not exist is an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect is insulting.

    This makes me wonder how long you have been "cognitively impaired". Since you probably can't handle big words - let me explain - "cognitively impaired" is the modern politically correct term for retarded. Certainly you remember all the other kids shouting you were "retarded" when you got on the short bus a youngster.
     
  9. Supporting 'climate change', the earth being flat, or the earth as the center of the universe - all due to some alleged 'scientific consensus' - are perfect real-life examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It beautifully explains the utter confidence of those who, with no expertise, remain stubborn in their views regardless of overwhelming evidence. It makes you want to shake them by the collar and scream about how stupid they are.
     
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    If there's a chance the professional consensus is wrong, consider how low the odds are that the cranks are correct.
     
    #10     May 4, 2013