Scientists: 30 Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?

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  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Scientists: 30 Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?
    http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/06...-well-do-global-warming-predictions-stand-up/

    Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels and Meteorologist Dr. Ryan Maue:

    "Thirty years of data have been collected since Mr. Hansen outlined his scenarios—enough to determine which was closest to reality. And the winner is Scenario C. Global surface temperature has not increased significantly since 2000, discounting the larger-than-usual El Niño of 2015-16. Assessed by Mr. Hansen’s model, surface temperatures are behaving as if we had capped 18 years ago the carbon-dioxide emissions responsible for the enhanced greenhouse effect. But we didn’t. And it isn’t just Mr. Hansen who got it wrong. Models devised by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have, on average, predicted about twice as much warming as has been observed since global satellite temperature monitoring began 40 years ago..."

    "Several more of Mr. Hansen’s predictions can now be judged by history. Have hurricanes gotten stronger, as Mr. Hansen predicted in a 2016 study? No. Satellite data from 1970 onward shows no evidence of this in relation to global surface temperature. Have storms caused increasing amounts of damage in the U.S.? Data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show no such increase in damage, measured as a percentage of gross domestic product. How about stronger tornadoes? The opposite may be true, as NOAA data offers some evidence of a decline. The list of what didn’t happen is long and tedious."

    James Hansen issued dire warnings in the summer of 1988. Today earth is only modestly warmer.

    By Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels and Meteorologist Dr. Ryan Maue
    June 21, 2018 7:24 p.m. ET

    James E. Hansen wiped sweat from his brow. Outside it was a record-high 98 degrees on June 23, 1988, as the NASA scientist testified before the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources during a prolonged heat wave, which he decided to cast as a climate event of cosmic significance. He expressed to the senators his “high degree of confidence” in “a cause-and-effect relationship between the greenhouse effect and observed warming.”

    With that testimony and an accompanying paper in the Journal of Geophysical Research, Mr. Hansen lit the bonfire of the greenhouse vanities, igniting a world-wide debate that continues today about the energy structure of the entire planet. President Obama’s environmental policies were predicated on similar models of rapid, high-cost warming. But the 30th anniversary of Mr. Hansen’s predictions affords an opportunity to see how well his forecasts have done—and to reconsider environmental policy accordingly.

    Mr. Hansen’s testimony described three possible scenarios for the future of carbon dioxide emissions. He called Scenario A “business as usual,” as it maintained the accelerating emissions growth typical of the 1970s and ’80s. This scenario predicted the earth would warm 1 degree Celsius by 2018. Scenario B set emissions lower, rising at the same rate today as in 1988. Mr. Hansen called this outcome the “most plausible,” and predicted it would lead to about 0.7 degree of warming by this year. He added a final projection, Scenario C, which he deemed highly unlikely: constant emissions beginning in 2000. In that forecast, temperatures would rise a few tenths of a degree before flatlining after 2000.

    Thirty years of data have been collected since Mr. Hansen outlined his scenarios—enough to determine which was closest to reality. And the winner is Scenario C. Global surface temperature has not increased significantly since 2000, discounting the larger-than-usual El Niño of 2015-16. Assessed by Mr. Hansen’s model, surface temperatures are behaving as if we had capped 18 years ago the carbon-dioxide emissions responsible for the enhanced greenhouse effect. But we didn’t. And it isn’t just Mr. Hansen who got it wrong. Models devised by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have, on average, predicted about twice as much warming as has been observed since global satellite temperature monitoring began 40 years ago.

    What about Mr. Hansen’s other claims? Outside the warming models, his only explicit claim in the testimony was that the late ’80s and ’90s would see “greater than average warming in the southeast U.S. and the Midwest.” No such spike has been measured in these regions.

    As observed temperatures diverged over the years from his predictions, Mr. Hansen doubled down. In a 2007 case on auto emissions, he stated in his deposition that most of Greenland’s ice would soon melt, raising sea levels 23 feet over the course of 100 years. Subsequent research published in Nature magazine on the history of Greenland’s ice cap demonstrated this to be impossible. Much of Greenland’s surface melts every summer, meaning rapid melting might reasonably be expected to occur in a dramatically warming world. But not in the one we live in. The Nature study found only modest ice loss after 6,000 years of much warmer temperatures than human activity could ever sustain.

    Several more of Mr. Hansen’s predictions can now be judged by history. Have hurricanes gotten stronger, as Mr. Hansen predicted in a 2016 study? No. Satellite data from 1970 onward shows no evidence of this in relation to global surface temperature. Have storms caused increasing amounts of damage in the U.S.? Data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration show no such increase in damage, measured as a percentage of gross domestic product. How about stronger tornadoes? The opposite may be true, as NOAA data offers some evidence of a decline. The list of what didn’t happen is long and tedious.

    The problem with Mr. Hansen’s models—and the U.N.’s—is that they don’t consider more-precise measures of how aerosol emissions counter warming caused by greenhouse gases. Several newer climate models account for this trend and routinely project about half the warming predicted by U.N. models, placing their numbers much closer to observed temperatures. The most recent of these was published in April by Nic Lewis and Judith Curry in the Journal of Climate, a reliably mainstream journal.

    These corrected climate predictions raise a crucial question: Why should people world-wide pay drastic costs to cut emissions when the global temperature is acting as if those cuts have already been made?

    On the 30th anniversary of Mr. Hansen’s galvanizing testimony, it’s time to acknowledge that the rapid warming he predicted isn’t happening. Climate researchers and policy makers should adopt the more modest forecasts that are consistent with observed temperatures.

    That would be a lukewarm policy, consistent with a lukewarming planet.

    Link is a re-publish from WSJ -https://www.wsj.com/articles/thirty...lobal-warming-predictions-stand-up-1529623442
     
  2. Hansen was almost exactly correct.

    Try a real source. There is so much wrong with that hack piece that I don't know where to start. Like yes, hurricanes ARE getting stronger and larger.

    The debate about man made global warming is over. You can leave your cave now.

    Besides, Hansen is just one guy. As much as the denial machine wants to ad hom the argument.

    There are thousands of climate scientists on earth. NONE deny man made global warming.
     
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  3. Considering some of the hysterical claims made in the late 60's and 70's, we shouldn't even be here to discuss this. As a result of this hysteria, Credibility was lost early on by the global warming cultists.
     
  4. From the article.....
    "Global surface temperature has not increased significantly since 2000, ...... "

    Oh really........and why not count the last few years? Why start at the year 2000? Does the author know anything about trends? And cherry picking? lol



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  5. The vast majority of science predicted warming in the seventies.
     
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why don't you show a chart using unadjusted temperature data -- instead of this demonstratively fake nonsense.
     
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  7. You simply do not know what you are talking about. You don't have the education or knowledge. You have right wing media.
     
  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    LOL.
    you’ll never admit that you’ve been had by one of the greatest schemes of all time.

    Here’s a few more Time covers for you to bust a nut over.

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  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    A real source? What’s wrong with Climatologist Pat Michaels? Or does he not sell green houses gases like you?

    You are correct - the debate about global warming is over. There hasn’t been anything outside natural variation and whatever warming there has been is certainly not attributable, to any significant degree, to anthropogenic CO2.
     
  10. Took them a whole 29 years to figure out that Global Warming hysteria pays more than global freezing?
    Liberals really are slow on the uptake
     
    #10     Jun 23, 2018