Pair Trading Strategy Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by jonnysharp, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. usman88

    usman88

    nice performance but there is a basic problem with your sharpe ratio calculation. You should calculate a monthly or weekly standard standard deviation of your portfolio, annualize it and then use it in the formula instead of using max drawdown which can massively inflate your sharpe ratio.

    Thankfully you can easily find calulators for std. dev on the internet and it would hardly take 1 min to fill it up and get the result
     
    #1101     May 24, 2009
  2. I can't find your entry on this one. Did you post it?

    What date did you get in this pair?
     
    #1102     May 26, 2009
  3. SBRY.L/TSCO.L in play
     
    #1103     May 26, 2009
  4. Treve1

    Treve1

    I have few questions to Jonny or anyone else working with PTF for a longer time:

    1. I observed that you incorporated the percentfrommean chart into your trading. How important is this chart in your trading stile, how do you interpret the chart, any rules?

    2. Seems like volatility is not that important factor in your trading style since sometimes the chart is going up or down. Or do you invest less capital in pairs with high volatility?

    3. By using back tester, do you have it set to 360 days? How do evaluate the chart in the back tester since it will appear differently in the watch list due to a different (shorter) time frame?

    4. In this journal you mentioned that you may incorporate stops into your trading plan in the future. Are you using stops now, and if yes what kind of stops?

    The stop seems to make sense to me. Currently I have a very ugly trade. On May 13, I bought BLKB and shorted PTI. I am 10% down on this position now and this takes about 25% of my profit. (I had 17 profitable trades, but none of the profit was as high as 10% and usually I only make small profit). And although my position sizing is small, still the one trade cuts my profit significantly. I didn’t sell it yet, as I am waiting for the exit signal, but it makes me nervous :mad: What to do?

    Thanks for any help on this.
     
    #1104     May 26, 2009
  5. Dr who, yes Im running a beta version at the moment, been providing feedback for them, you could prob get a copy too, just email them.

    Kevin, yes I may have missed listing the entry on that pair, don't have the time to go through all the posts, however to verify in ptf the signal was generated on the 30th of April, I entered AXS @ 24.63 and short PRE @ 68.19, small profit on the trade.

    Treve, I like to see the % from the mean near record highs or lows as advised by ptf, no I don't look at volatility anymore, I don't understand your pt 3, not using stops, happy with the way it is now, you could use a time based stop, however if your trading conservatively any one position going against you shouldn't risk blowing up your a/c, keep position sizing small relative to a/c.
     
    #1105     May 26, 2009
  6. You may have the same problem as me, I dont ride my winners as much as I should.
     
    #1106     May 26, 2009
  7. Exited trade yesterday

    Sold CMP @ 52.19
    Covered SYT @ 46.81
     
    #1107     May 28, 2009

  8. This trade highlights some of my concerns.
    According to my records, this trade was open for close to a month and a half, and besides the loss incurred would have tied up capital for a relatively long period. Any second thoughts about using a time stop? Do you have many examples of 30 day plus
    profitable trades?
     
    #1108     May 28, 2009
  9. tatankas

    tatankas

    The trade was opened 15th April.

    The loss should be around 3.5%.
    Besides the loss, there is the opportunity cost and interest you have to pay on some short positions or if you are leveraged.

    Anyway, John mentioned it was a smaller position than usual.

    But you raised a very important point.

    A stop based on maxim holding time, it's something I have though many times before.
    But still don't know if it's the better choice. Maybe someone more experienced can enlighten us
     
    #1109     May 28, 2009
  10. out FDX:HUBG @ 2.83 from 2.79 (loss),
    out TRV:RNR @ 0.89 from 0.9168 (tiny gain),
     
    #1110     May 28, 2009