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    The Usefulness of Religion - Early Modern Texts
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    Usefulness of Religion. John Stuart Mill. Introduction. Introduction. Friends of religion and its enemies have had a great deal to say about whether religion is true; ...

    What is the usefulness of religion? - Frihost
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    Aside from literalist cranks, no one believes that religion helps in any way to explain the functioning of the universe. Since at least the 1800s, science has been ...
     
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  3. I don't think there are very many people these days that see God as the Almighty anymore.
    Surely if there was such a God he would have stopped WW1 andWW2.
    Good and evil are the forces within all of us.
    Germany was in too much chaos after WW1 to stop Hitler and his message of hate.
    These days in some countries he would be parked into an insane asylum but others he would still get to the top. It is up to the general public whether they will allow it. Budding dictators are currently vying for power in Turkey. Venezuela, North Korea.
    Some even speculate that Trump is on the road to absolute power. Removing rivals and obstacles on the way there.
    Downgrading the Joint Services Committee
    Threatening the Free Press
    Living in his own fantasy land that the public adore him when there are riots on the streets.

    etc.
     
  4. Sikh Canadian Politician Brilliantly Foils Racist Woman During Event
    10/09/2017
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ring-event_a_23203346/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage


    A Sikh Temple Where All May Eat, and Pitch In
    By LYDIA POLGREEN AUG. 29, 2010
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/world/asia/30india.html?mcubz=3
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    All faiths are welcome to eat a free lunch daily at the Golden Temple, the holiest shrine for Sikhs, in Amritsar, India. Credit Lynsey Addario for The New York Times



    11 Times Sikhs Made The World A Better Place
    December 23, 2015
    http://www.indiatimes.com/culture/w...khs-made-the-world-a-better-place-248637.html


    Sikhs In New Jersey Feed Thousands Because It's The Sikh Thing To Do
    This is what faith in action looks like.
    24/11/2016
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/en...-sikh-thing-to-do_us_58346fe4e4b099512f84c2c7
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    Volunteers participate in the Nanak Naam Jahaj Gurudwara's "Let's Share A Meal" event.
     
  5. I think religion has its good sides. Over the ages some have protected the poor and disadvantaged from despotic rulers. In the UK religion was the champion of science and learning until the facts were found to contradict their teaching. For instance the earth revolved around the sun not the other way around.
    It does give hope and purpose to many.
     
  6. No benefit from religion,it would only do harm.I remember in the USSR there was no religion,people used to live not closing doors at night.
     
  7. So what you're saying is that if the world got rid of religion, we'd be as safe as people who lived in the USSR? No thanks. Mass genocides, famines, widespread police surveillance. I guess if you lived in the city, you'd have had it a lot better, but those in the country really got the shitty end of the stick and didn't even a God to pray to for comfort. Just accepted their lives sucked and waited for it to be over. Maybe that's why so many left their doors unlocked...just hoping someone would come and kill them in their sleep and get it over with.
     
  8. Surely the object of religion is found in the next world, not this? Surely the worship of your god or gods is to ensure your happy progression into and through the next world? What happens on this earth is very secondary.

    A helpful outcome of religion is a widely accepted set of morals governing conduct and contact. Although shakey somewhere at every point in time in history, this has ensured development of human society into what it is.

    A bad outcome of religion is that I always feel that people who have a strong religious code will seek a way to treat me differently if I don't share it. So I can respect religion as a principle but I have to distrust all strongly religious people.
     
  9. The issue if religion is usefull or not seems to be a bit funny. What is that question about? Usefull for whom and for what purpose... That should be clarified before reasonable question could be asked.
     


  10. A fair point. I thought it probably meant beneficial, in the sense of beneficial to mankind including the non-religious, rather than useful. But maybe I was wrong.
     
  11. Ok. Still it depends so much. Religion isnt gomogeneous thing - so many good and bad examples regarding religion you know. I like someone said - no matter what beliefs you have, important thing is what they do with you.
     
  12. There's no way of dispassionately assessing which is a good religion and which is a bad.

    But one benefit the "best" might be said to have is tendency towards establishment of a well defined code of behaviour towards others. We call this law, but there's a close relationship between codes of law and religious behavioural codes. Maybe it is these codes of behaviour, starting with religious codes, that have greatly helped human civilisation to develop?

    And maybe the "best" religions would be those whose codes and state laws are most benign towards non-believers of that religion?
     
  13. The MAIN beneficiaries of religion are the many thousands that use religion to have a comfortable life and being supposedly superior to others.
    In the name of some God, so many millions have been murdered. So it is also the tool of the evil people.
    One of its drawbacks is that the disciples always look back when really they should be looking forward and embracing updates.Perhaps AI will cut through the religious garbage from previous charlatans.
     
  14. I would strongly recommend somebody to cherry pick through the established religions from the past and streamline it for the benefit of those in the future.
    The old religions may have been cutting edge a long long time ago but things have moved on.
     
  15. Too much of it would do you more harm than benefit...

    Anyway,religion is only useful as a reference point.It`s designed to move your perception from the conventional one(you sit on the stool now and thinking your typing in "On Usefulness of Religion" thread,right?)to get a notion, that some other reality(whereas, in reality, your just in a process of the constant recognition of everything - you are the process) is there.

    But religion rarely gives you the real sensation of that other reality,just an idea.So your just sitting and thinking, and guessing...and farting around:religion is this,religion is that.But it`s not real you who is thinking now,actually!Life is just being observed through you.lol...........
     
  16. We probably have to have some sort of a rules based framework to prevent reverting back to the stone age.
    There may be enough guns out there for everyone in the US to shoot his/her neighbour if chaos were to reign.
     
  17. As the saying goes: religion is the opium for the poor. And I think that says it all
     
  18. "

    Jeff Hietala
    1 year ago
    This songs lyrics have greater relevance today then ever before!! Mass, shootings, wars in Israel and middle east, police aggression against black Americans, violent protests, terrorist attacks. I wish we could bring back Lennon, MLK, and Gandhi. . If they were all alive today they would not approve of the violence and hatred today.


    Jacques Nel
    1 year ago
    I used to absolutely detest this song. Blinded by my ignorance and naïve belief in the comfortable paranoid fantasies of religion, I opposed anything that contradicted my world view. I couldn't imagine a world without a heaven, nor without religion. Now, however, I find myself free from the oppressive beliefs I used to entertain and able to realise the true beauty that is this masterpiece. "




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_galaxy
     
  19. Actually no, those extra guns are for people who want to make sure their enemy is dead.:D
     
  20. Yup, just take it away and then you have to buy a gun to protect yourself. I think that says it all.:D