Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So what? Where's the data that says 40% has any impact? How do we know that 400% would have an impact measurable on a geological scale?

    I'm not arguing with you on greenhouse gas qualifications or the amount CO2 has gone up (I don't know enough about it to say either way).
     
    #1311     Dec 10, 2013
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The article about the coldest temperature ever recorded seems to go against the text summary on your chart. So yes, oops for your argument.
     
    #1312     Dec 10, 2013
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #1313     Dec 10, 2013
  4. jem

    jem

    I will tell you why.
    I am a conservative who believes we should conserve and protect the environment - properly with due care... and you leftist drones have been helping the leftist politicos, pr people and compromised climate guys siphon off billion of dollars which could have gone to cleaning the oceans or the air.

    now the leftists are attempting massive wealth transfers and restrictions of liberties with cap and trade and UN wealth transfers.

    finally, I just like to see the truth get its due.
    the truth is the data shows change in temperature precedes change in co2 levels. So while co2 could have an amplifying effect we have no idea how significant it is. But, the more data we have the less significant CO2s warming effect seems to be in our current environment.







     
    #1314     Dec 10, 2013

  5. Ha ha ha. Good one. Idiot.
     
    #1315     Dec 10, 2013
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I like that solution.
     
    #1316     Dec 10, 2013
  7. CO2 is, by various estimates, responsible for 10 - 24% of the immediate greenhouse effect and and a much larger factor of long term temperature regulation of the earth right? The level of CO2 in the atmosphere are analogous to the setting on a thermostat.

    BTW Didn't you have me ignore?
     
    #1317     Dec 10, 2013
  8. jem

    jem

    show us the data to back those wacko claims up.
    the models making those claims have failed.
    without some sort of multiplier effect there is no chance co2 does that.

    the very recent models have tried to say more co2 means more clouds via multiplier effect.

    the issue with that is there are other recent studies showing the clouds may have a cooling effect.




     
    #1318     Dec 10, 2013


  9. Yes the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere largely regulate the earth's temperature.

    Because CO2 is a greenhouse gas and we have increased it's level by 40% so temps are rising.
     
    #1319     Dec 10, 2013
  10. Without non-condensing greenhouse gases, water vapor and clouds would be unable to provide the feedback mechanisms that amplify the greenhouse effect.

    A companion study led by GISS co-author Gavin Schmidt that has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research shows that carbon dioxide accounts for about 20 percent of the greenhouse effect, water vapor and clouds together account for 75 percent, and minor gases and aerosols make up the remaining five percent. However, it is the 25 percent non-condensing greenhouse gas component, which includes carbon dioxide, that is the key factor in sustaining Earth’s greenhouse effect. By this accounting, carbon dioxide is responsible for 80 percent of the radiative forcing that sustains the Earth’s greenhouse effect.


    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/co2-temperature.html
     
    #1320     Dec 10, 2013