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More Harm Than Good?

  1. I have been following pretty much all of the current threads here for several weeks. I have been a spectator and a participant. I have been an driver and a hitchhiker.

    I need to ask myself at this point if I have been wasting my time, or if this has been time well spent.

    If I learn about trading here, then I consider that to be time well spent. If I do not, then I have obviously spent my time poorly.

    If I was able to contribute for the good, then I have spent my time well also.

    If I have wasted my words and shared my thoughts for the benefit of no one, then again I have wasted my time.

    If I have been entertained, then is that time well spent? If I have entertained others, is that time well spent? Or is this the wrong forum? Is the entertainment just a waste of space and time?

    I have recently been trying to follow the threads of Super_ego who obviously wants to be inflammatory. I find him to be at times knowledgeable, but always abusive....which is fine....it is obviously his intent. Why would he use a name like that if he did not want to ruffle feathers? I enjoy his posts and his humor, but I am put off by his cheerleaders who have decided that questioning SE is heresy.

    I have watched the "superstition" thread turn into a never ending debate over the merits of religion and God. I have witnessed the ostracism of Lundy for giving his opinions, and the Moonie mentality of the followers of Super_Ego.

    I have seen Tony Oz respond immediately to a challenge only to be derided for his generous and immediate response. Don Bright gets abused for no reason other than he is high profile, and his success is resented by some here that have not achieved his stature his experience or his prosperity.

    I have been called names for disagreeing with the opinions of others, and I have been applauded for writing thoughts that I never implied were original.

    I have been told to "go away" from a thread for asking a question.

    I have gotten Private Messages asking for more advice than I am qualified to give.

    I have been biting my tongue keeping the confidences of Private Messages that would have vindicated me for the very things I have been severely ostracized for in the public threads. (the hardest thing I have been confronted with in a long while)

    So I ask you, the populace of Elite Trader if I should walk off into the sunset, or if I should stay and slug it out with the would be detractors of my thoughts. I have stated before that I have been trading longer than some here have been alive. Yet I am insulted by some of those very people for expressing what I hope to be humorous or informative; maybe I do have too much time on my hands right now, and have made a mockery of myself for my time spent here.....witness this one PM from today, and my response of which I am not proud:


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    tampa wrote on 07-09-02 01:18 PM:

    Dude, you are unserious need of a life...or something.

    Re: a life
    ok...thanks for the advice..interesting you can know so much about someone you don't know anything about. But thanks just the same! And Dude, you need lessons in grammar or spelling or typing or medicine for you attention deficit disorder..."unserious need of a life..."?

    So perhaps I have lost my mind. Your input will be appreciated, and either way, peace and good trading to all. (Some more than others)
    :) RS7
     
  2. ET, is like other things in life. It goes through both bad and good periods. There have been many times that I've wanted to leave, but then I just go away for a while and come back refreshed. By that time, the board has had time to change.

    The recent SE threads are another example of this. People like him (or should I say that person) have come and gone. Those that remain are a great source of knowledge and a sense of community.

    Ultimately it is up to you whether you stay or not. The only thing I advise is getting a thicker skin quick! (I think Don knows the best purveyers :p ) For me the good has outweighed the bad.
     
  3. rs7,

    Personally I welcome your contributions to this board. I enjoy your writing style, your insights, your humor, and being the beneficiary of your extensive experience. Please do not let a few cheerleaders drive you away, as many people here are most appreciative of what you bring to the party.
     
  4. keep posting. your advice and experience will be appreciated by some and derided by those who are ignorant. That's the way it is with everything. Can't expect to have everyone be courteous. I tell myself that everyday when I m on the subway and i have an elbow in my face and body odor kicking from the guy next to me. Those who are here to learn will value the info shared by others. Forget about the hecklers.
     
  5. It isn't a matter of a "thick skin" for me...none of it bothers me. I just really don't want to waste my breath if I am trying to help some people and they don't care. I don't want or need adulation or gratitude. But a little respect would go a long way. If I want to get dissed, I can get that from my family:)
     
  6. Rs7,

    Beat it bro... You and your 37 aliases are starting to get pretty tired!!!

    PEACE and Commisso
     
  7. I guess that I'm what would be known as a lurker, not because I don't want to contribute but because I just a struggling part time trader who wants more then anything to be a full time trader but has not reached a plateau where I feel my comments would be of value.

    In regards to the value of ET, for me at least it's a matter of reading some great advice and ideas and just glancing over the crap!

    My favorite by far have been the journals, most recently Huios, jboydston and bronks (I'm partial since I only trade the Minis).

    Anyway, bottom line is like Babak stated you have to take the good with the bad and I hope all the great posts keep on coming and I hope people appreciate the time that some people take to post some great advice and ideas.

    Thanks
    MrX
     
  8. LOL!!!!

    rs7, get some help dude. oh and that goes for your "brother-in-law" too :p
     
  9. Hello my name is Commisso and I am an elite head junkie!!!

    Seriously though I think I might be slightly addicted to this forum, sad I know, trust me I feel like a HERB for sayin it...

    I only play the mornings now so I have a lot of free time in the afternoons and sadly a good deal of it is spent reading through the garbage on this site

    I have come to think it is entertaining BUT ultimately a big waste of time...

    Rs7 for what its worth I really enjoyed your posts! and I think you should stay and contribute... as for me I AM GONE starting tommorrow...

    PEACE and good trading It has been fun,
    Commisso
     
  10. RS7,

    I've been frequenting 'net boards since, oh, some time late in Bush I's presidency and I can tell you that Super_Ego/Fasterpussycat is what we affectionately call a Net Kook. He craves attention and can't get it through talent so he does so through bombast and insults. The fact that he constantly degrades superior traders shows that his true motivation is a deep feeling of inferiority. (I think we all remember how obsessed he was with Hitman, even to the point of going over to Hitman's new board as his "Resolas Inamtih" incarnation and spewing garbage.) It's just sad and pathetic because he's fooling no one and impressing even fewer. If he's really 42 like he claims, that's even sadder. But hey, if that's what TPTB want on ET while real traders find new venues to express their opinions, that's the free market for you.

    As always, YMMV IMHO and STFU. : )
     
  11. Commisso, you are one of the bright spots here for me. I may have to cast my vote against myself if you leave!!

    Yeah, and I know what you mean about the time....I usually only trade the open and close, and have been doing it from home recently. I am not used to the isolation. I am used to being in a "trading environment". Hence my fear that I am truly losing my mind:)

    I will especially miss being the fly on the wall during your Darkhorse debates.

    Peace to you, my brother!
    RS7:)
     
  12. Seven,

    Your verbal diarrhea and pathetic, whiny efforts to vindicate your posts display a needy personality desperately in search of attention and approval.

    Your alleged "super successful secret to trading" was nothing but Chicken Soup for the Soul platitudes and feel good generalities that wasn't worth one word of Ego's posts.

    You haven't added much of value to this forum with your 300+ posts, so...

    MAKE LIKE A HOCKEY PLAYER AND GET THE PUCK OUT OF HERE!!!!
     
  13. rs7

    damned if you do, and damned if you don't - screw the masses and do whatever you want - do you really give a shit about opinions of people you don't even know?

    stay here if it makes you happy, and leave if it sucks - it's as simple as that.

    90% of the posts on this site are worthless dribble, but it's more entertaining than Jay Leno.
     
  14. Nope, I don't.

    That isn't what this is about. It is just a little data collection. Call me a curious type.
     
  15. I hope you stick around but think you will either way.
     
  16. Could you please start a soapopera forum, and move all this junk over there..

    RSsissy7, Your thread on successfull trading was really outstanding, but your recent posts are getting really annoying, concentrate on being constructive as before, and please loose the drama. "You can act like a MAN!!"
     
  17. rs7, hang in there, alot of people think your a cool dude, but when SE reads this he might "rip you to shreads"
     
  18. I walked off too and at times have since wondered why I came back.

    As for the garbage, there is just no accounting for stupidity (take that both ways, in some ways I think I am stupid for sticking around).

    Some folks are intelligent, humble and friendly- a pleasure to chat with and be around.
    Others are stupid, small minded and cruel- no common sense and not worth pissing on if they were on fire.

    I would suggest doing a pragmatic assessment of your own benefits for being here.
    If the camaraderie of a few is worth the garbage of the many, stick around.
    If it ain't, walk away.

    Let me know if you do decide to 86 the joint though, I just may join you (again).
     
  19. At times, you will always feel like reaching down the modem line and punching someone in the face, but the reality is that this is still the highest quality board for traders on the web, and I for one feel previlaged to have found it.

    I think you should stay.

    Runningbear
     
  20. I doubt that...His cheerleaders do that for him.

    But if he does...well I think that as Reisgo2002 said, I will just have to stop being a "rssissy" and "act like a Man" (clever stuff). Maybe I have it in me....gee I hope so! I mean it is a frightening scenario to ponder. Knees are a little wobbly, but I think I will be able to get through all this somehow.

    But really, I do believe SE is not a nasty guy. Worst he has done to me personally is be evasive. Still waiting for his explanation of the differences between shochastics, rsi, and macd's. And I really wish I could find out which is more dependable. Then I could die happy.

    And I can handle Faster and the rest. Never lost a fight yet to anyone with a short skirt and pom poms.
     
  21. What he said...

    If I had more time I could scan every post, and cull out the quality ones but as is I'm sure I've missed a ton of good stuff but also lots of crap. I've been gone and back and gone again a few times. Do what is right for you and be good! Same thing applies to you Commisso. You been wiggin out lately. A good long break can do a body good.
     
  22. rs7,

    stick around, I value your thoughts. Albeit, I do skip some of your posts when I can tell you are not teaching, just bantering. My advice is what a friend once told me: "Sean, you are way too compasionate! Snap out of it!"
     
  23. that's what i was thinking. By the way, I screwed up the poll I wanted to attach to this thread, so if you want to vote, see "Should I Stay of Should I Go"

    Vote Early and Vote Often--
    Hon. Richard Daly, Mayor of Chicago 1955-1976 (died in office)
     
  24. If you call your state's motor vehicle or the clerk of the nearest United States Court and ask especially for jury duty, you can see clashes like these here among the lawyers and get paid $18 a day for your trouble. :)
     
  25. You should stay definitely. Your Successful Trading stuff is the most informative thing I have seen on here. At least it is something I can understand, and it makes sense. Even the responses are informative, like the ones I saw tonight from other guys.
    thanks, Marc
     
  26. "Conversation is the cure for every sorrow. Even contention is better than loneliness."
    - Irish saying


    "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance or a stranger."
    -Franklin Jones


    Slow it down if you want but please stay.
     
  27. RS7,

    It's a lot like letting someone go ahead of you at a 4 way stop and they don't wave to say thanks. Does that upset you? It pisses me off.

    But the question is, shouldn't you be satisfied in just doing the right thing? And for the people who do appreciate it, all the better.
     
  28. That was how I started. Now I am pissed at myself for getting caught up in the insanity. That is why I was soliciting opinions.....maybe I did go too far, and just need to lay low. Hard to do when incited by some of the provocateurs...just gotta let it play out and see where it goes.
    Best,
    RS7
     
  29. Get back to the boards. I like you alot. In fact, I read all those long and boring comments that you write because they are interesting. You are interesting. rs7, I want you on the SE boards. It's just not the same without you.

    Please come back!

    SE
     
  30. I stopped posting to the yahoo message boards for the same reasons so I understand. At least here there is less childish personal name calling and usually some form of logic in the responses. I can say that I have learned a couple of things from this site and received some free entertainment, so for me it has been net positive. If it is net positive for you then stay.
     
  31. EGO, you are just too much man! haha! You Da Man!
     
  32. When guys like Commisso leave, there isn't much left here for me...
     
  33. Hey, Pussy, you are back! I thought maybe you were taking a break from your cheerleading duties. I see that is not the case. You ever make up your mind about my sister's pom poms and short skirts? Get back to me on that issue soon, otherwise she may give them to my niece. My niece is 3 already, so she may be able to use the stuff in about 11 years. So it will be a close one between her needing the cheerleading stuff and SE answering me about those stochastics. But hey, 11 years isn't forever.

    Not like you will be a grandmother by then or anything, but will you still look as cute in the skirts and waving the pom poms?
     
  34. Now there is an example of highly intellectual logic!!!!

    I gotta ask the moderators if there is a way to save this for posterity. Guys? Any of you here? I don't want to ever lose this gem!!!
     
  35. I guess we have moved the thread?