Is it possible for retail investor to trade Variance Swaps

Discussion in 'Trading' started by paget, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. paget

    paget

    Is it possible for retail investor to trade Variance Swaps and how could it be done? I've checked lot of data about volatility/variance trading and some of those sources often compare spot VIX and VIX futures to Variance Swaps(and Volatility Swaps). Thing is, there isn't much information on how to trade those Variance Swaps. Does anyone have any clue?
     
  2. bone

    bone

    As soon as you get your ISDA, go for it.

     
  3. destriero

    destriero


    Trade VX futures or the VIX vol-synthetic. I don't think you're going to be happy with the contango.
     
  4. Variance futures come probably closest for retail. But I have not checked whether they still exist and at what volume they trade. Not sure of liquidity at all.

     
  5. I knew we are missing something from this market and now I know what it is! Let's have retail traders trade variance! What could go wrong?
     
  6. paget

    paget

    What's the point of this comment, can't you already trade variance by VIX futures, ETN's or various options strategies?
     
  7. paget

    paget

    What do you mean by "vol synthetic"? ETN's like VXX, SP500 call/put spreads that are made to replicate VIX movements or something else?
     
  8. destriero

    destriero


    The synthetic futures; long(short) VIX; short(long) n-put, long(short) n-call.
     
  9. Variance futures are totally illiquid, there are literally 0 volume or open interest there. It was CBOEs attempt at capturing that market that failed miserably because they could not come up with better margin methodology. There is no strategy that would allow you to trade variance via ETNs.

    You can reproduce a variance swap payoffs either by trading complete replicating strip of options (and delta-hedging it MoCC, which is easier now) or by trading a package of VIX futures (or synthetics, as @destriero suggested - that's more margin efficient), VIX options and a strip of S&P options to replicate the stub.

    PS. for full disclosure, I do trade variance swaps (though I have not done any since last spring when it was very exciting place to be) and don't think retail traders should be involved there
     
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  10. paget

    paget

    Okay, thanks. I was interested in variance swaps mainly because I've read that their structure is more efficient than of VIX futures and ETN's(more efficient at capturing spot VIX when held for longer periods than retail products). Is this even true?
     
    #10     Jun 5, 2021