I would urge you to read the report and understand the intent of the study rather than spouting false information.
You lying idiot. I read the study... 70.6 percent of the people with Covid in the study stated they always wore a mask... that is 100 percent true. you can have your fearful opinion but you are not entitled to lie about facts.
you are a consumate douchebag. Decent people would apologize... Even in you own fricken article I proved to be stating the facts accurately. yet you still lie.
Let's post the fact check again -- this time be sure you read it completely. Fact check: Does CDC study show '85 percent' of COVID-19 patients wore masks? https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/fa...-19-patients-wore-masks-not-exactly/19340391/ Fox News host Tucker Carlson misrepresented the findings of a recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report, amplifying misinformation from social media as he claimed on his TV show that the study showed masks don’t work like experts say. Running through a series of data points listed in the CDC’s report, Carlson said during his Oct. 13 show: "Almost everyone — 85% — who got the coronavirus in July was wearing a mask, and they were infected anyway. So clearly this doesn't work the way they tell us it works." The Fox News host’s take ran counter to comments he made in April touting the effectiveness of masks. It also contradicted the guidance of public health officials, who say mask wearing on a broad scale can slow the spread of the coronavirus. Carlson’s misleading claim about the CDC study appeared to make its way to North Carolina. Dan Forest, North Carolina's Republican candidate for governor, cited the study during his debate with incumbent Gov. Roy Cooper on Wednesday. “The CDC just this week released their study about mask wearing on COVID-positive cases: 85% of the positive cases in America are from people who say they wore the mask everyday, all the time, or at least almost all the time. 85% of the positive cases,” Forest said. President Donald Trump, a frequent Fox News watcher and guest, then mentioned it during his rally in Greenville on Thursday. "Did you see, the CDC, that 85% of the people wearing the masks catch it, OK?" Trump said. The data in the CDC report, however, cannot be generalized to say "almost everyone" who wore a mask in July got the coronavirus. It’s from a very small sample the authors said may not be representative of the United States, and mask use was self-reported. The report does not say masks don’t work to slow the spread of COVID-19. The CDC study wasn’t measuring mask effectiveness The CDC paper summarizes findings from a survey of 314 people. The total included a group of 154 symptomatic people who tested positive for the coronavirus in July and a control group of 160 symptomatic people who tested negative for the coronavirus in July. Based on the results of the survey, the CDC report said two activities were linked to a positive coronavirus test: close contact with someone who also tested positive, and going to locations with on-site eating and drinking options, such as bars and restaurants. Of the 160 survey participants who tested negative, 74.2% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.5% said they "often" did so. Of the 154 survey participants who tested positive, 70.6% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.4% said they "often" did so. Those numbers form the basis of Carlson’s claim that 85% of people "who got the coronavirus in July (were) wearing a mask." A Fox News spokesperson pointed to those figures and a segment from Carlson’s show the following night. In the segment, Carlson addressed a statement he said the CDC made to Fox News. Carlson said the agency called his commentary on the September study "misleading." "CDC guidance on masks has clearly stated that wearing a mask is intended to protect other people in case the mask wearer is infected," the CDC said in the statement. "At no time has CDC guidance suggested that masks were intended to protect the wearers." Carlson told viewers the CDC didn’t address his original claim. "The spokesman didn’t dispute that we had showed accurate data from the CDC, including that 85% of people who tested positive for coronavirus in July reported wearing a mask always or often," Carlson said. But the CDC study wasn’t measuring the impact of masks. "Participants were asked about mask use as an individual behavior," CDC spokesperson Jason McDonald told PolitiFact. "However, the aim of the study was to assess possible situations for community exposure, not mask use." Carlson misrepresented the CDC paper’s findings It’s misleading to leap to conclusions about the effectiveness of masks from the CDC report, since most participants reported wearing them and the study was not controlling for mask use. "You can’t just look at a table and draw conclusions without understanding the details of the study," said Cindy Prins, an epidemiologist with the University of Florida. "It is difficult to detect the effect of an exposure or intervention when it is widely deployed or used," McDonald added. He said both groups of participants had high levels of mask use, and that the rates of people who always wore a mask in each group were not "statistically different." The study did find a significant difference between the groups: whether participants went out for food or drink. The study authors wrote that those with positive test results were "approximately twice as likely to have reported dining at a restaurant" than those who tested negative. The link between restaurants and catching the coronavirus is important to Carlson’s claim, since most people lower their masks to sip their drink or eat their food. "Restaurants and coffee shops are places where people will tend to not wear a mask," Prins said. The study’s authors noted that masks "cannot be effectively worn while eating and drinking." But Carlson claimed that 85% of July cases were "wearing a mask" and "infected anyway." "Going to places where mask use and social distancing cannot be maintained might be an important risk factor for COVID-19," McDonald said. Carlson’s comment also ignored limitations listed in the study. The people were surveyed at 11 health care facilities, where they’d all sought testing because they were experiencing symptoms. So they "might not be representative of the United States population," the study’s authors wrote. Ben Neuman, a virologist with Texas A&M University, Texarkana, also took issue with the survey’s reliance on the participants’ self-reporting of their own mask use. "There are certain things that are embarrassing or politically and socially sensitive, and you generally won’t get honest answers if you just ask them on a questionnaire," Neuman said. Carlson misrepresented how masks work Carlson’s claim also mischaracterized the science behind masks. While masks do provide some protection for wearers, experts and public health officials say they are most effective as "source control," preventing infected people from transmitting the virus. "When a person who is infected with COVID-19 wears a mask, it helps to reduce the amount of virus that they release when they cough, talk, or even breathe," Prins said. The CDC recommends wearing masks in public and when social distancing isn’t possible. Neuman previously shared three studies with PolitiFact that found wearing masks reduces the likelihood of contracting the coronavirus. Other studies have said the same. "Growing evidence increasingly shows that wearing masks in community settings reduces transmission among individuals in that community," McDonald said. "There are laboratory studies, animal studies, community and epidemiological studies, as well as policy studies that show masking reduces transmission in communities by blocking exhaled respiratory droplets." The Fox News spokesperson cited CDC Director Robert Redfield’s September testimony as an example of how mask wearing "doesn’t work the way they tell us it works," as Carlson claimed. Redfield touted the effectiveness of masks relative to a potential coronavirus vaccine. "I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine," Redfield said in a clip Carlson played on his show. But Redfield never said that masks only protect the wearer — or that they offer complete and total protection in that regard. He was comparing masks to a potential early vaccine, which he said wouldn’t necessarily guarantee an immune response. "He was suggesting if everyone around him wore a mask, he would be protected until a vaccine became available," McDonald said. The CDC has been clear elsewhere that masks help keep infected people from passing the virus to others. The CDC’s website, for example, says masks help "prevent a person who is sick from spreading the virus to others." It adds: "The protective effects — how well the mask protects healthy people from breathing in the virus — are unknown." PolitiFact ruling: FALSE
So... you see liar, ignorant moron... I will quote your article again. I bolded and underline it... so even a moron could see it is exactly as I said. "The CDC paper summarizes findings from a survey of 314 people. The total included a group of 154 symptomatic people who tested positive for the coronavirus in July and a control group of 160 symptomatic people who tested negative for the coronavirus in July." ... Of the 154 survey participants who tested positive, 70.6% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.4% said they "often" did so.... "
The entire context of the paper is about people who dined The entire focus of the study was the safety of on-site dining in restaurants -- stop taking a single sentence out of context. "It’s misleading to leap to conclusions about the effectiveness of masks from the CDC report, since most participants reported wearing them and the study was not controlling for mask use." 'But the CDC study wasn’t measuring the impact of masks. "Participants were asked about mask use as an individual behavior," CDC spokesperson Jason McDonald told PolitiFact. "However, the aim of the study was to assess possible situations for community exposure, not mask use."'
That is the focus or spin put on the paper. The study is the study... And it found some of the people who got Covid went out to eat or got coffee. diner. Not all of them, but more of them than the control group. so again... like I said. you are illogical reader of studies and a liar. Facts and truth matter. Your fear does not make what you say real. Besides... what I wrote is still 100 percent accurate. you lied... Of the 154 survey participants who tested positive, 70.6% said they "always" wore a mask or face covering and 14.4% said they "often" did so.... "
I do not think he even reads replies to him and he recently stated to me in this thread that he "doesn't care about your previous posts" (his words). Although I'm not trying to convince him considering he lives in another country in a problematic area as I am here in Québec. There's many like him that doesn't believe in the health guidelines but they're very good at talking about how it infringes upon their rights... Forgetting the one important fact. The more of them that ignore the health guidelines...the more restrictions are put upon them. More people suffer that doesn't need too because of the ignorance of a few. Like I said to him...you reap what you sow. His conspiracy on face mask wear even though there's scientific evidence (he asked for the evidence in another thread...I posted it plus giving him instructions on how to do his own tests if he didn't believe the evidence)... He then ignored it that face mask wear reduces the viral load to the minimum. Also, he ignores another critical fact...many people do not properly wear a face mask and many more do not use the appropriate face mask. Example to him in the past was about Coach Nick Saban...constantly pulling down his face mask to have face to face screaming matches with referees, pulling down his face mask to have conversations to his football players that wore "no masks" and attending closed door meetings without a face mask with others in the meeting that also did not wear face mask although a few did not become infected (they wore a face mask) and the few that did become infected from the meetings...they did not wear a face mask... In Jem's view...face mask failed Coach Nick Saban when Saban tested positive for Covid-19 after sometimes wearing a face mask or sometimes wearing his face mask around his neck. Regardless, one of the primary purpose of a face mask by itself is to increase the probability that someone standing near you will either not get infected or get a mild illness that's survivable because the viral load had been reduced by the face mask. Simply, he doesn't merit anymore replies from me now that I know he ignores the info that's posted to him including him ignoring other countries that did not lockdown are performing better than Sweden. He can not even post the names of those countries after I specifically identified the country names to him. wrbtrader