In election Hail Mary, Jared Kushner tells black people they're lazy and unambitious

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. My opinions always conflict with those from that "unsavory lot" to which I referred earlier. And yours, in your own words happen to be opposite of mine. Shall we connect the dots?
     
    #31     Oct 28, 2020
  2. Accepting responsibility for your own actions and refrain from blaming others is always a good start. Of course you can wait for hand outs and perpetuate the diluted term of racism that has been diminished to the value of near zero thanks to the left.
     
    #32     Oct 28, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Again, you're stuck on the false premise that interpretation of these comments or events are binary. I'll do a simple example.

    Trump says "Proud boys? Fine, proud boys stand back, stand by."

    A. Your interpretation: Trump supports proud boys, and because proud boys are a white supremacist group, he is also a white supremacist.

    B. My interpretation: After listening to context, Trump asked "who do you want me to denounce?" Biden calls out "proud boys". Trump, flustered mentions them by name with a poorly worded "stand down" comment, but this does not mean he is a white supremacist.

    C. A person here you consider to be unsavory interprets this as: Trump says all liberals are idiots and Proud Boys are not white supremacist.

    Your view is clearly at odds with B & C. My view is at odds with A and C. I don't think Trump meant either A or C.

    You assume that because I don't agree with A, I must agree with C.

    Now, I don't expect you to admit to this flaw of logic, but that's how I see it here. Happy to discuss.
     
    #33     Oct 28, 2020
  4. Black people are lazy? I never would of thought that at all.
     
    #34     Oct 28, 2020
  5. This '666 Guy' is really , really ambitious.
    Not surprising ....... coming from a crime family.


    Jared Kushner is ‘infantilizing the president’ in new Bob Woodward audio tapes

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    White House advisor Jared Kushner was “infantilizing” President Donald Trump during comments he made to journalist Bob Woodward in April, CNN host Brianna Keilar said Wednesday.

    In an audio recording released by CNN, Kushner tells Woodward that “the most dangerous people around the president are over-confident idiots” because they can get past Trump’s “defense mechanisms.” He added that those advisors had been replaced with “more thoughtful people who kind of know their place.”
     
    #35     Oct 28, 2020
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  6. I follow your logic and, surprisingly for once, your nuance. (You seem to grasp nuance very well when suits you.) Trump IS a white supremacist. He IS a racist. If you cannot see that after all these years, then you are suspect on that basis alone. Sorry, but true.
     
    #36     Oct 28, 2020
  7. If it wasnt for Trump, blacks would be
    much worse off. Thanks to him blacks are much better off today than during the Obama years.
    Most importantly, blacks need to take advantage
    of these opportunities and make more responsible life decisions.
     
    #37     Oct 28, 2020
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You know how I know when you're on shaky ground? You get snarky.

    The current discussion point isn't whether Trump is a white supremacist, but whether my interpretation of Kushner means I align myself with "unsavory" posters here on the board.
     
    #38     Oct 28, 2020
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  9. Yes, but you managed to work into your logic that Trump is not (necessarily) a racist. And not for the first time.

    I look for patterns. You focus on a narrow interpretation of isolated instances, never quite taking the time to add them all up to see what they total.
     
    #39     Oct 28, 2020
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    No, that isn't the point. I made an example of the most recent argument we've had on interpretation of comments other than the current example.

    You don't look for patterns. If you did, you'd acknowledge that the pattern of responses that comes from me is nothing like the so-called "unsavory" posters here that you bucket everyone that doesn't agree with you into.
     
    #40     Oct 28, 2020