How to tell when this bull run is done

Discussion in 'Options' started by Matt_ORATS, Apr 15, 2020.

  1. Matt_ORATS

    Matt_ORATS Sponsor

    Look at the implied volatility trend. If it breaks this down-trend, this bull run of ~25% may be over.
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  2. hafez50

    hafez50

    So in layman's terms you're saying the implied volatility is rising now expecting volatility to be higher in the future? When it breaks out of its range it means it expects the vix to spike thus the mkt will fall?
     
  3. today if we stay below 280 spy its downwoards we go.
    Edit: also, the call to put ratio has risen, good time for the boys to take market lower
     
  4. Atikon

    Atikon

    Today Oil Inventories came out mate. 2 1/2 hours ago. The same time spx futures took a dive
     
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  5. yeah, add that to quote on quote the perfect storm
     
  6. NY_HOOD

    NY_HOOD

    earnings are not good. i dont know how we keep going up. except a select few.
     
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  7. alternatively: market crack up would also mean VIX to go higher but nvm.
     
  8. Atikon

    Atikon

    I was kind of suprised the market didn't took a dive when the 15 days to slow the spread was one uped to 30, but apparently the market priced that in. Prob the same for Earnings Season
     
  9. maxinger

    maxinger

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  10. Handle123

    Handle123

    This was written few years ago, most likely debt has increased per U.S. household. Since average American seldom has savings, most in grim situations. Most states not going to be opening up for at least a month and when they do, it is not going to be all employees still have a job to go to, getting them in even worse situations, $1200 bucks not even close what most families need to get by in a month. Plus, when going back, not like any time soon people going to be buying what they did before virus so many business going to be then laying off people. And can't be just printing money, inflation be ugly matter where government goes bankrupt cause interest rates will go up hugely.

    Going by lines in drive thru at Starbucks, there is nothing wrong, but there is plenty wrong.

    https://www.investmentzen.com/data-visualization/average-household-debt-in-america/
     
    #10     Apr 15, 2020
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