how do i calculate the margin i will need

Discussion in 'Trading' started by met1989, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. met1989

    met1989

    hello

    i have been trading for over 3 years on a DEMO account now i feel confident to start trading the problem is i cant figure out how much margin i will need in order to trade in my strategy as futures are always the same margin requirments but options change with market volatility now i don't mind putting in allot of money in order not to get a margin call but still how would u guys do it?
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

  3. Calculate your liquidity in the worse case scenario then add 100%. So if your worse draw down is 10% likely your lying to yourself and it's more like 30%. So you need to use 40% of your total account size on margin or less.. plus it totally depends on your strategy.. are you holding over night. Trading spreads... Etc,.
     
  4. truetype

    truetype

    What broker are you using, or planning to use?
     
  5. met1989

    met1989

    that i can i do but lets say last week the options prices were expensive so i wouldn't be able to trade
     
  6. met1989

    met1989

    IB or TD those are currently what im trading with
     
  7. truetype

    truetype

    There are several recent threads about IB margining, often contentious in tone. Check the `search' function.
     
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  8. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    First, you have to decide the whether you are a day trader or position trader. Each FCM holds it's own day trading policies. If you keep positions overnight, you just need to see what are the margins that are dictated by the exchanges. If you Google for example "Emini SP Margin" the first on-paid choice will most likely be the link that you need. The CME lists the maintenance margin, so to get the initial you need to multiply by 1.1.
     
  9. met1989

    met1989

    but if i have a long future and its protected with a put do i still need that maintain margin?
     
  10. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    Theoretically, the long option value should subtract from the margin requirements, but each FCM has its own risk parameters to calculate that so you would need to talk to your futures broker and run the specific scenario. This is my suggestion.
     
    #10     Feb 20, 2018