Hope-n-Change Update: Barry Looking for 'Ass to Kick'

Discussion in 'Politics' started by quantsteve, Jun 8, 2010.

  1. Yannis

    Yannis

    Actually, they were, but you refuse to see it.
     
    #51     Jun 10, 2010
  2. Lets see 9-11 the worst terrorist attack in history, Bush refused to see the warning signs. Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, wrong. The Iraq war will pay for itself, wrong. And on and on. You my blind christian man are the one who refuses to see the truth. Remember Yannis lock step, lock step, onward christian soldier, no thinking required or recommended.

    I'll give this to you this though I'd rather go party with Bush, I bet he was a blast in his day.
     
    #52     Jun 10, 2010
  3. Yannis

    Yannis

    Actually it was Clinton who didn't react properly during his 8 years... what was occupying that paragon of Dem honesty and virtue? :) Bush reacted to the crisis perfectly and got us out of it, moved the trouble overseas, etc. Wrt WMD, the UN reported they had them (several times in the 90s), Saddam claimed they had them, the Iraqi regime was behaving very suspiciously hiding stuff and kicking the UN inspectors out, Bush felt that he had to act, I understand. We didn't find any, and that was the good news, think of the alternative. But, many in the Intelligence community believe that Saddam sent them to Syria, the same way he had sent his fighter jets to Iran a few years before. The net result is that this country remained safe and Iraq/Afghanistan got rid of their bloody dictators - excellent! But, as I said before, you seem to be too stupid to see it, sorry.
     
    #53     Jun 10, 2010
  4. Obama has sure refused to see the warning signs of the BP spill. But that doesn't count in la la land.
     
    #54     Jun 10, 2010
  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    You didn't mention 9/11 in your first post.

    Would you like to party with this guy?

    Long before the national media spotlight began to shine on every twist and turn of his life's journey, Barack Obama had this to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. . . . I got high [to] push questions of who I was out of my mind."
    In the book, Obama acknowledges that he used cocaine but rejected heroin. "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he says.

    Words of a President.....
     
    #55     Jun 10, 2010
  6. quote from Yannis "this country remained safe " yeah if you don't count 9-11 but I think most thinking adults (non brain washed right wing nuts) will count 9-11.
    Bush was warned by the Clinton administration about the dangers of an attack. Bush FAILED TO PROTECT AMERICA.
    Remained safe, you forgot 9-11.

    Hey buttscoe, I told you before fuck off dude you are an idiot. Your put downs are sophomoric at the very best and would embarrass most sophomores.
    Yannis is blind and stupid from a life time of religious indoctrination and really can't help himself, he has no ability to see the other side of any strongly held emotional opinions, he doesn't even realize his opinions are just that opinions, you just have to over look stupid fucks like him. Those guys are usually good at their job though, good at following direction and repetition.
    But you buttscoe are just stupid.
     
    #56     Jun 10, 2010
  7. If Bush was honest his comments would be similiar to Obama's. Like many people in that age group people partied and used drugs and had pre-martial sex ( don't tell Yannis) and like many went on to become successful people.


    I can see both sides to the argument, my beef is with the brain dead support of Bush by the idiot right, those guys are fools.
    I do know that 9-11 could of happened no matter who was president, but it would not change the fact that it was a failure to protect America by who ever was president. Iraq was a mistake no matter who would of made the decision, but I don't think a democrat president would of attacked Iraq. Unlike the the brain dead right wing followers I do try to look at both sides of the issue and make an informed decision and also that there isn't a 100% right or wrong in most political and social issues. I also realize that I could be and have been wrong and time is a good test of that and I change my positions and opinions accordingly, something the right should consider doing.
     
    #57     Jun 10, 2010
  8. "Liberals seek to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree with them. Why? Because the facts of logic and history do not support the agenda they are seeking to advance."

    Now tell us what you think of Obama's refusal to look at the warning signs of the BP spill?
     
    #58     Jun 10, 2010
  9. jem

    jem

    What percent of the Republicans think highly of Bush or that Congress.

    Much of the right felt betrayed by Bush and the Republican Congress.

    They were so bad -- many Republicans became independents. Soccer moms even voted for Democrats.

    Bush and the spenders alienated Reagan republicans.

    bush's allegiance to Enron screwed Californian's with crazy energy prices.

    Bush caused the left to appear to have power. Bush caused Obama. Bush caused this health care fiasco. Bush really is to blame for temporary rise of the socialist left.

    The country has learned their lesson and will vote against socialists for the next generation... but Bush caused the country to elect a landslide of crazy leftist dems who care nothing about hard working americans.

    The real question is whether that was part of the Neo Con plan. I think it was

    His dad was a big eastern liberal and hated what Reagan stood for. Bush Jr. was all about looting america for the oil men. He even tried to put a big liberal on the supreme court and have our ports watched by middle easterners.
     
    #59     Jun 10, 2010
  10. Yannis

    Yannis

    Lots of opinions and assumptions here - one could easily argue the opposite of most of what you say. After each 8 year presidency, there are lots of people who are happy and others that are unhappy on both sides. Remember, about 1/3 of Americans are essentially Independents, aka switchers back and forth.

    Wrt out of control spending, it started in 2006 when the dems took Congress over - that's when all hell broke loose. They spent a lot of money in pork, while the liberal media attacked GWB systematically so that to bring down his approval ratings and render him unable to defend his positions and objectives.

    Wrt Bush Sr's political leanings, imo what you write is more fiction than fact. Anyone can spread ugly rumors against people they don't like, but that doesn't make it right or correct.
     
    #60     Jun 10, 2010