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Gold diggers?

  1. I can't believe no one brought it up here.

    If you do well, especially if you live the high life, how could you have not run into a couple of those? If you don't mind them, no need to read on.

    There's probably more guys than gals here, but I think everyone could contribute to making a comprehensive "Gold digger screener", girls and gay people may offer unique insights.

    My two cents:

    high risk areas: business and top class (and airport lounges), hotels, certain towns...

    high risk groups: girls dress in certain ways (don't have the vocab, but you know what I'm talking about), girls who keep certain company...

    preventive measures: find out if a girl has something going for her (those who work certain professions such as doctors, teachers, etc...), some more intrinsic qualities such as compassion, intellect ... if she's ok with being just a f-buddy. Also maybe projection of certain energy when you are about to have sex for the first time with a non gold digger.

    I personally don't even own a car, keep two places (nice Zen like one deep in the sticks, crappier one also Spartan has nothing of value in a ok neighborhood, any self respecting burglar would regret ever breaking into it:D), dress anything female friends don't comment as atrocious. So to me it's not a huge problem, however some good ones can still smell it. One just asked me outright if I'm rich, my answer was "your honesty is refreshing".

    ps: I suspect most of us are fairly unemotional and ruthless. If you are, have you noticed that you have a tendency to attract overly sentimental girls who want to "covert" you?
     
  2. I wish............
     
  3. I am not sure why OP blames them. After all you don't go out looking for ugly women or for a mate with no redeeming values, so why would it be different for them?

    There is a saying, don't get mad, get even. They want your money? Get even and want them just for their beauty and cooking skills!
     
  4. Maybe all you got going for you is your money.
    But with a stingy side it seems. So they won't bother you for long.
    They all have different personalities and agendas which can change.

    Marry your housekeeper/children minder and have fun with your mistresses.
    Make sure they know that is the setup.
     

  5. Your English is horrible. Another uneducated fool.!
     
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  7. Why not just let them believe you're rich (whether true or not) and have your fun with them. Women like that shouldn't be taken seriously, they're trying to use you so it's only fair you try to do the same.
     
  8. The 90% on ET who live in Mom's basement won't have to worry about golddiggers any time soon!
     
  9. Reminds me of the old Rodney Dangerfield line..."When I was a kid, I was so ugly my parents used to tie a pork chop around my neck to get the dog to play with me." Maybe you could tie a roll of currency around your neck to test your premise.
     
  10. Hey, come on now, the rent is free.
     
  11. Gold is a great source of investment friends.
     
  12. preventative measure: Hoody with holes. Problem solved.
     
  13. Since the beginning of time...it's been like this;

    Men look for good looks/genes in women for reproduction values,
    and Women look for men who are successful/able/rich enough to properly take care of their offspring. (and themselves)

    It really boils down to Basic nature and survival necessities. o_O
    Good bone structure is desirable in men, and good hips/hourglass figure is desirable in women.

    It's not necessarily automatically 'shallow' or bad or evil, I say.
    Anybody who tells you different is full of stuff, or delusional of the inner workings of reality/society.

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  15. “If the law is on your side, argue the law. If the facts are on your side, argue the facts. If neither the law nor the facts are on your side, attack the character of the witness.”

    you are clueless to what constitutes well written prose. the OP's writing is actually quite good. because you don't agree with his post and don't know how to counter his points, you sink to using the slimy tactic of denigrating his command of english.
     
  16. for the moment it is bitcoins.
     

  17. His first sentence and first paragraph don't even have a subject. That's enough for me to conclude that his grasp of the English language is quite poor.

    As for your assumptions of my reasoning for commenting on his language skills, it could just be that I generally found his English skills or lack thereof to be less than impressive. I didn't comment on his points because I felt that they were mostly either trivial or off-base.
     
  18. his first sentence does have a subject. it is quite obvious that he is referring to Gold Diggers.
     
  19. Your NAV doesn't have to be in 8 figure range or above to get their attention, you only have to be notably better off than the women. While we guys are busy winning pissing contests, many women are observing pecking orders of social groups, reading magazines, books, forums, attending seminars, even doing meditations ! to improve their skills at trapping the next rich (soon much poorer) bachelors if not family guys. They are case studying Evita, Wendy Murdoch (I strongly suspect she studied the former many times), even interning for divorce lawyers, befriending clueless tech guys/unattractive females working in hedge funds as their ladders.

    The really good ones study their marks like professional con artists. They pay (with money or else) PIs, lawyers, accountants to track invisible millionaires(where there's much less competition), many of them successful business owners, traders/investors/quants (especially). There are still many not so tainted ones out there, but with the condition as it is, more women are marrying for money.

    A lot of analytical minds tend to be loners and don't have much experience in the social intelligence department. Just the garden variety of gold diggers could do them in (at the very worst moment). Their special forces are for the billionaires.:p

    What pisses me off is even my best female friends (went to kindergarten/grammer school together, both married with kids) reluctant to give me pointers, as if there's some kind of sorority blood oath to help the fellow social climbers...

    People change. When you find a woman worth keeping, not ever taking her to North America would be an excellent idea.

    I suppose women inevitably size you up for your ability to provide, the tricky part is, to what degree and if it's the only motivation. It's especially tricky if she's born into lower income brackets. My problem is women would eventually find out what I do, given my life style (7 pieces of furniture including my bed in a 4 bedroom apartment, travel around the world with only one piece of carry on luggage), if I just lie with a very low ball number, they become anxious, if I show them the whole picture, at that point I still wouldn't know what kind of women they are and would be wondering from that point on. My current strategy is to be as vague as possible, and if she's pissed off because of it, she's probably not worth keeping around.

    I personally wouldn't want to sleep with a gold digger, trick or no trick, their energy would rub off on you.

    I was looking for a screening mechanism... guess there's no better ideas?

    If we can share enough extreme cases and study them, the very best scenarios and the very worst, and look for patterns, there should be some results.
     
  20. Gold diggers are not super smart analytical women. They are mostly lazy stupid women looking for a meal ticket using the only thing they have, their pussy. There is a reason why they are called trophy wives, whether they have value other than their looks, a beautiful wife is still envyed by other men. The men marry for looks and the women marry for money and they are both aware of what they offer. Gold diggers are basically prostitutes and any woman with any intelligence would never consider dating or marrying someone for money

    Your shortcomings with women have nothing to do with your lack material wealth. You are obviously the type of person who thinks that he is a lot smarter than he actually is . you are Fool
     
  21. In the end we all pay for it regardless of the relationship style
    :D
     
  22. I'm not sure if you had ever been in a serious long term relationship before but your strategy about staying vague is an area of great concern. I believe you have it reversed and if she's truly worth keeping she would want to know everything about you including what you do. I hope you don't take it the wrong way as text seem to convey things without tone but hiding things will not make it any easier and may make her question who you really are and without real trust you will never have a real relationship. I have the same issue as you but I'm extremely private so staying vague is naturally my style. If the worst comes and she isn't the one just remember that she has just as much to lose as you do and what you lose can always be remade, but she cannot get back the time she wasted.
    I'm wishing you Good Luck in finding your special someone!
     
  23. Dude, 8 figure range is right about poverty level these days :)

    PS. When someone asks me what I do for a living I say "I produce pornography for the Republican Party". After that nobody sticks around and I can go about my business freely.
     
  24. Comedy is best left to professionals.
     
  25. Pump and dump isn't illegal in the flesh market
     
  26. Given Alabama, you might want to report to the police whoever does continue to talk with you.
     
  27. We indeed do all pay but nowhere equally. The rich sportsmen get their trophy tarts into bed but which doesn't usually last very long.
     
  28. Thanks man, you sound like a balanced person. May I ask if you were married young(while still struggling)? If you were to marry or become a long term partner with a woman, how did you tell her that you are doing well? The best line I can come up with is "I enjoy a considerable degree of freedom, I do what I like to do, not what I have to do", etc. Afterwards, I also test them to see how they respond to the idea of giving away big chunk of money (+-30%) every 10 years (I have reason to believe I will continue to do well, and you will reach your "cap" anyway). A lot of them failed miserably. A few gold diggers are an annoyance, too many of them would make one a little depressed.

    Goes without saying overly conspicuous spending attracts the very wrong kind of women AND repel some high quality ones. What you do after finding a good woman is really personal preference. I have witnessed some women who are just "unspoilable", envy those guys. I find a minimalist life style efficient, good for mind clarity, and keeping some deplorable human beings away.

    Thanks for your good luck btw. Just got the number of a girl working for a NGO. She told me while camping, the best way to keep roaches away is to starve them of what they feed on, and they tend to feed on the corpses of their own. "They recycle " she said:D
     
  29. To answer your questions yes married very young, we both worked at that time. It's helped me to see my own flaws and also to see red flags and avoid certain people. I learned that my greatest asset were not the things that I were driven to achieve but I already had, they were my family particularly my mother and sister.

    I'm only saying this from my prospective and what I plan to do when I'm ready to meet people again I plan to just tell them that I trade for a living, simple as that nothing to hide. It's hard to not worry about what others may think about you at first but being honest from the beginning is extremely important. If she jumps at the opportunity to inquire what you make and has this look on her face $_$ you pretty much got your answer and can tease her back with "I use a margin account would you bail me out if it went to negative?" Just kidding...(it would be fun to watch the reaction tho) But on a serious note if someone cared they would have the immediate reaction that reflects that concern and she will inquire about what you actually do daily and not just about the $$ portion. They will ask questions that are of more substance. They will be curious about all that you do because they care for you. It takes time to really get to know someone and you will have to spend time with them in order to know.

    Sorry to say your testing of giving away 30% cannot work even if that person is honest and even if they are they cannot be completely sure as to how they'll act until it actually happens. That goes with most things even with ourselves, we cannot predicts what we'll even do when it happens but we can evaluate with what data we have on hand and estimate the worst case scenario and determine if it's worth it. We all want the same thing, to find someone that is willing to weather both the storms and share good times with. Heck you can be on the other spectrum and have a partner for a decade and realize that you can weather the storms but cannot share the good times as they become more and more aggressive/bitter as you try to accumulate the wealth is even more painful. Yes people do change under circumstances, or they simply reveal themselves. But some habits that are formed cannot be changed easily such as a lack of respect of others and self.

    I'm not sure how intuitive you are, but you can usually sense it if she's "that type" Never fall for the type that always needs to be rescued especially if they need to be saved all the time, this goes for both genders. But regardless of your intuitions you should always check for the basics such as their relationship with family/friends, how she spends her time and work ethics. If she does not work or only working the minimal amount without future plans I'd question that and investigate it. It's very important that they think and actually plan about the future otherwise forget about it.

    I believe you will not encounter much trouble as you are thinking about this ahead and you seem cautious to avoid such people anyway. I do agree with the camper girl's analogy. ;)

    Take care!
     
  30. I found this on reddit. Mark Cuban's advice:
    • I always hear Mark Cubans interview in my head. I loved when he was single and dating, he said he could always find the gold diggers. Cuban said every gold digger said she wanted to travel or start a charity. Howard changed the subject super fast.
    Good luck! That is a fortunate problem to have.
     
  31. Thanks for the tips! Couldn't find the reddit post though, only some related links. (maybe google/reddit didn't agree with him)

    I'm not quite sure if what Cuban said holds true though... I met tons of female backpackers who are cool, too bad they like to get stoned too...:D Wouldn't be surprised though, in his circle he's bound to run into shadier characters... Problem with staying a bachelor as a billionaire. Maybe ask her HOW she likes to travel instead? Owned gulfstream or economy?

    Totally don't get the charity part... There are some who'd just give token amount, and some who go out there and risk malaria or even kidnapping/rape. Use a "giver" identity to overcompensate? Cleaver but how do you know if she's not for real?

    If one day I do stop making profits, maybe I'll amount to something a lot more productive to society:p
     
  32. One of the best known " good time " girls in recent times died last week.
    She gave The Minister for War a good time while bedding a Russian KGB agent.
    Yikes.....that caused a stir.
    This arrangement caused the collapse of the current Government.
    Oh and she died in near poverty.
     
  33. .

    Who was this 20th century mata hari?
     
  34. Doesn't matter who she is. I think I get the drift somehow. On my part, habits such as being highly critical, rehearsing worst case scenarios aren't exactly recipe for attracting self assured girls.

    Turns out there's a similar post on wallstreetoisis. Among discussions about gold diggers, an ad offering financial modeling courses pops up: "Our models repeatedly proved this method to be most profitable and low-risk..." :D

    Time to leave ground zero
     
  35. Her name was Christine Keeler of the UK.
    The Conservative Govt. of Harold MacMillan fell.
     
  36. Oh Humpy they leak like a sieve anyway... It's totally unfairly to pin it on that woman.
     
  37. Some guys enjoy the gold diggers. At least they aren't 24/7 and nagging, scolding etc.
    So horses for courses. Boring if they were ALL mommy's darlings.
     
  38. https://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-signs-shes-a-gold-digger.html
     
  39. You don't mean savaging old gold mines, do ya? Or do you mean this type ...
     
  40. I think the op meant this type
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  41. get one for their cooking skills. get one for their beauty.
    old saying the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
     
  42. The sex robots won't all be girls.
    They might satisfy the gays too !
     
  43. There you go, you can have one also...