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Giffords Gives Thumbs Up!

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    By PAULINE ARRILLAGA, Associated Press Pauline Arrillaga, Associated Press – 32 mins ago

    TUCSON, Ariz. – Doctors said Monday that Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' had given a thumbs up sign and tried to grab her breathing tube — heartening developments two days after surgery for a gunshot wound to the head.

    Dr. Peter Rhee said surgeons had seen many encouraging signs. On Sunday and Monday, Giffords was able to respond to a verbal command by raising two fingers with her left hand.

    "When she did that, we were having a party in there," Rhee said. And even while sedated, she has reached for her breathing tube. "That's a purposeful movement. That's a great thing. She's always grabbing for the tube," Rhee said.

    Also, while her brain remains swollen, the pressure isn't increasing — a good sign for the congresswoman's recovery.

    Neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Lemole of Tucson's University Medical Center said swelling from such an injury typically peaks around the third day, so doctors "can breathe a collective sigh of relief" after reaching that point on Tuesday.
  2. Shes in my thoughts and prayers.Get well soon Rep Giffords
  3. Landis82

    Registered: Jul 2006
    Posts: 8324

    01-10-11 03:40 PM

    Gee, now I know what it is like to be STALKED on the Internet.
    How flattering that someone is hanging on every single post I make and "biting" at everything that I say.

    Lucrum in 3 - 2 - 1 . . .

    Congratulations, you've made a post apparently considered so utterly ridiculous an administrator closed the thread. You must be proud.

  4. Sorry clown, but in case you haven't noticed this thread is about Congresswoman Giffords getting better and not about YOU following me around ET like a jilted teenage girl. You and your frail, pathetic little Ego show a tremendous lack of class. You just can't help yourself can you? Just how unstable are you? You've made new lows . . .

    Everyone here can see that.
  5. Wouldnt that be great if she made a full recovery, and then went to the jail to taunt him(with a full camera crew so we could all watch of course)
  6. :D Oh jeeze, so now the putz of ET claims to have class? I think almost everyone here can see past that.
  7. She's lucky to have survived, but like James Brady who was shot in the head during the Reagan assassination attempt, it remains to be seen how much function she has lost.
  8. Umm, all I see is you making absurd posts and getting threads shut down. I don't know what "everyone" you are talking about...

  9. News out today indicates that she is now breathing on her own.
    Thank God.
  10. No - that would be pathetic, small-minded, and un-Christian.
  11. Landis, get some class and quit PM-ing me please. I thought I'd been over this already and I'm really flattered and everything, but I'm straight. Thanks and good luck.

  12. Yesterday he's complaining I'm stalking him, now he's stalking you.
  13. Here . . .

    I'll speak the same language for both of you classless D-Bags that you most likely will understand, since you are the epitome of "Dumb and Dumber" and have no problem with people walking around with concealed weapons with multiple clips of 31 bullets each, let alone egotistically "pissing" all over a thread that is wishing for a United States Congresswoman's speedy recovery . . .


    If you'd like to stop hiding behind your screen-names on the anonymous internet superhighway and actually put some "teeth" in the words you speak . . . I'd be glad to meet you in person and see if you actually have some balls, instead of COWARDLY hiding behind a computer keyboard.

    Your move, asswipes.
  14. Wow, as if your stalking wasn't already bad enough, now you want to meet us in person so you can look at our balls :eek: ?!

    (someone help!!!)

  15. Honestly I've never seen anyone have greater than a very modest quality of life at best following a gsw to the head.

    Unfortunately It just isn't the nature of the injury.
  16. :D So two nights ago you wanted Joe to have me stop "stalking" you on the internet; now you want to meet in person? You weren't man enough to defend your public display of stupidity on a message board; but now you want to see if I have balls?

    I actually just went through this with Dr. Drunken Douche, supposedly a former Marine no less. But rather than type page after page of BS posturing, threats and promises; how about you just tell me EXACTLY when you're arriving and I'll PM my address or the address of somewhere to meet?

    Canton, GA 30114

    Oh and I don't know about anyone else; but I don't buy your phony "concern" for the congresswoman. Simple probabilities really. It's extremely rare for an arrogant putz like you to genuinely care about anyone but themselves.
  17. I know what you mean.
    It's quite possible that she got EXTREMELY lucky.
    Here are some photos that were released this morning from her hospital room, with her husband . . . Space Shuttle Commander Mark Kelly.


  18. Thank You.
    Excellent article.
    She seems to be in great hands!

    However, according to the BBC, Giffords' surgeon, Peter Rhee, was "a former military doctor who served in Afghanistan" and her neurosurgeon, Michael Lemole, "removed half of her skull to give the [brain] tissue room. The bone is being preserved at a cold temperature and can be reattached when the swelling subsides."

    The article does not, however, explain this procedure very well, and so I thought I'd give a little bit of an explanation.

    This surgery is known as a decompressive hemicraniectomy.
  19. no offense, landis, but my money is on lucrum.
  20. Yawn.

    I've noticed that you've already posted 15 times today and it isn't even 90 minutes into the trading session. Trade much? Trying to break a record? Does Baron pay you a nickel per post???

    Welcome to Eliteposter
  21. you're a very angry person. relax a little.

    its a slow day for me. besides, if we compare posts-per-day between the two of us...

  22. Yawn.

    Landis82 5.11 posts per day

    Tsing Tao 1.44 posts per day

    Am i missing something here
  23. ...Landis will look like a fool for even bringing it up in the first place. Given on average Landis posts 3 1/2 times as often as you do. And no matter how many times its pointed out that Landis keeps accusing members, who post less frequently than he does, of posting too much and therefore they cannot be traders he just keeps making the same lame remarks. It's as if he's just too fucking stupid to get it.
  24. Yes, feel free to check out how many posts that I've made on ET over the last 9 months . . . It doesn't even come close to 0.50 per day.

    And contrary to the D-Bag Lycrum who does nothing more than spend his entire life here in the "P&R" forum ( which I find rather strange since this is not known to be a political blog or website ), I actually contribute some posts of value in other forums, such as the Hardware, Retail, and Software Trading Forums.
  25. You obviously failed BASIC math.
  26. this sounds curiously familiar to the methodology obama supporters use when calculating the jobs obama "saved and created" during his presidency. pick a particular point in time that allows favorable results, and use it.
  27. And what does this have to do with Congresswoman Giffords and her recovery???

    Or do you have a habit of showing up on threads "hijacking" them?
  28. :D You're really full of yourself aren't ya?

    5.1/1.44 = 3.54
  29. 5.11/1.44=3.54

    Am i missing something here?

  30. As if you genuinely give a shit?

    Why is it OK for YOU but no one else?
    Or was this one of your "value" posts?

    Registered: Jul 2006
    Posts: 8344

    01-05-11 08:18 PM

    I heard that he was in Hawaii still trying to obtain Obama's birth certificate.
  31. I truly feel bad for you.
    ET is obviously your LIFE.
    How sad that you have to piss all over a thread dedicated to the recovery of a US Congresswoman.

    You obviously are a very angry person.
    Life not going well for you in Canton, Georgia?
  32. Way to dodge questions Labia82.

    You do NOT feel bad for me.
    You arrogantly presume too much
    I'm pissing on YOU dumb ass
    Angry? You're the one that's upset
    I am snowed in, Al Gores GW has turned into an ice age here in the south.

    Apparently no one else believes your phony concern for the congresswoman either.

  33. You just can't face the fact that you are a D-Bag pissing all over a supportive thread about a US Congresswoman who was the target of an unhinged whack-job.

    You clearly ignore the FACT that you came on a thread that was initiated by me that was interested in showing support for the Congresswoman amidst this cesspool of the "P&R" forum that you live in, and YOU chose to make an ass out of yourself, acting like a 4 year old and posting absolutely NOTHING THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CONGRESSWOMAN'S CONDITION . . . Or are you too blind to see what you
    posted on Page 1 of this thread???

    Following me around ET is not very funny anymore, it's actually pretty pathetic. I do feel sorry for you. Life has so much more to offer than this, but you clearly are not a very happy person. Everyone here can see that from your post on Page #1 of this thread.

    You've clearly got some serious issues.
  34. Dodging questions and comments you don't like again huh? Repeating the same stupid shit over and over doesn't make it fact Labia82.

    Posting in this forum is OK for you but not for anyone else

    Posting over 5 times a day is OK for you but not anyone else

    Hijacking threads is OK for you but not for anyone else

    Your posts have value but not anyone else.

    You have time to trade and post more than most but not anyone else.

    You can stalk other members but no one else can.

    Did I leave anything out? Oh yeah you're a sanctimonious putz.

  35. Ironic.
  36. At congresswoman's bedside, Good News keeps coming.


    By ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer Alicia Chang, Ap Science Writer – 58 mins ago

    TUCSON, Ariz. – Gabrielle Giffords has made a "major leap forward" in her recovery progress, opening both eyes and moving her legs and arms, her doctors said Thursday.

    The Arizona congresswoman remains in critical condition after being shot in the head Saturday. Few people who take a bullet to the brain — just 10 percent — survive such a devastating wound.

    With her closest friends from Congress holding her hand Wednesday evening, Giffords opened her unbandaged left eye and tried to focus on loved ones for the first time.

    "This is a major leap forward. This is a major milestone for her and we're hoping that she crosses through many more," said her neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Lemole.

    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who was present for the eye opening, said: "It was raw courage. It was raw strength. It was so beautiful and so moving."

    Doctors have also helped Giffords sit up and dangle her legs from her bed. She's able to open her right eye, even though it's bandaged.

    The next milestone will be removing her breathing tube, and perhaps have her sit in a chair on Friday, said Dr. Peter Rhee, trauma chief at University Medical Center, who has treated soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Doctors want to make sure Giffords doesn't regress and are watching for pneumonia and blood clots.

    It's a far cry from last week, when a shocked nation braced for the worst for the 40-year-old Arizona congresswoman. Several news outlets erroneously declared her dead soon after the shooting rampage that killed six. Stunned by the day's events, crowds held candlelight vigils outside the hospital and Giffords' Tucson office.

    After her surgery, Dr. Richard Carmona, the former surgeon general and family friend who looked at Giffords' brain scans, gave a bleak outlook.

    "With guarded optimism, I hope she will survive, but this is a very devastating wound," he said.

    But as the days ticked by, doctors shared signs of improvement. There was a glimmer of hope early on: Giffords was able to squeeze a doctor's hand in the emergency room.

    By Sunday, Lemole said he was "cautiously optimistic" about her survival. She could follow basic commands when they briefly eased up on her sedation.

    Doctors were encouraged Monday that there was no further brain swelling, and Giffords could raise two fingers of her left hand and even flashed a thumbs-up.

    The following day, doctors said Giffords was breathing on her own, but still connected to a respirator as a precaution. She was also moving both arms. Doctors gave their most confident prognosis yet: She will survive.

    "She has no right to look this good and she does," Lemole said.

    As her sedation was scaled back, Giffords became more alert and moved on her own — touching her wounds and fixing her hospital gown. She even scratched her nose, Lemole said.

    The encouraging news continued when Gillibrand and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., stood in the hospital room Wednesday, talking, joking and touching their friend.

    "She was rubbing our hands and gripping our hands so ... we knew she could hear and understand what we were saying and she moved her leg, and so we knew she was responding," Gillibrand said. "And the more we joked about what we were going to do, she started to open her eyes."

    Giffords' husband, Mark Kelly, realized the significance of the moment. "Gabby, open your eyes, open your eyes," he said, according to Gillibrand.

    Said Schultz: "It felt like we were watching a miracle."

    So how did Giffords survive the gunshot wound? The path of the bullet, quick and quality medical care, and a stroke of luck meant the difference between life and death, say her doctors and brain experts.

    Doctors think the bullet pierced the front of Giffords' head and exited the back, slicing the left side of the brain, which controls speech abilities and muscles on the right side of the body.

    Had the bullet damaged both sides of the brain or struck the brain stem, which connects to the spinal cord, the outcome would likely be worse — extensive permanent damage, vegetative state or death.

    "So far, she's passed with flying colors of each stage" of her recovery, said neurologist Dr. Marc Nuwer of the University of California, Los Angeles, who is not involved in the congresswoman's treatment.

    Most gunshot victims are not that fortunate. Several years ago, a Tucson police officer was shot in the head during a chase. His heart was beating when he was rushed to University Medical Center, but doctors couldn't control the bleeding in the brain and he died, Rhee said.

    When Giffords arrived at the hospital, doctors first checked to make sure she didn't have any other injuries. They took a brain scan and wheeled her to the operating room in a swift 38 minutes.

    The same attack in the desert many miles away from a trauma center may have led to a different ending.

    It's too early to tell the extent of damage Giffords suffered, but experts say it's rare for people with gunshot wounds to the head to regain all of their abilities. Damage to the left side of the brain can result in memory loss, difficult reading and hand-eye coordination problems. Giffords' doctors have not been able to determine how well she can speak since she still has a breathing tube.

    "Her full-time job now for the next year is working on her recovery and rebuilding her life around her disability whatever it may be," said Dr. Stephan Mayer, professor of clinical neurology at Columbia University Medical Center in New York, who has no role in Giffords' care.
  37. Thanks for posting all this Landis. I don't post much, but felt compelled on the Obama Tucson speech thread -yikes what nonsense there- and here.

    You clearly have some very angry sparring partners here - it really is sad that so many have so much hate, just for the sake of hate, in them.

    I'm not a big Obama fan, didn't care too much for W's war either, but I like to think we are still Americans - and compassionate, whether for Senator or an innocent 9 year old who was shot to death by a madman.

    To think so many have turned into politicized nuts. Sad.

  38. It's pretty difficult to taunt a paranoid schizophrenic since he's already paranoid and living in his own world.

    What's the goal? To make him even MORE paranoid?

  39. Internet tough man of the year no doubt.
  40. im just answering your attack on me regarding posts. you began that, not me.
  41. Thank You for your kind and supportive words.

    I think that you'll find that those that live in this forum on ET who spout all sorts of Hate and contempt don't even have anything to do with the financial markets. They aren't current traders and if they ever were, blew up their $5,000 Ameritrade accounts a long time ago.

    The fact that they waste so much of their time in this Forum spewing Hate is quite telling about what kind of pathetic lives that they lead. They are most likely unemployed and have nothing better to do with their time. What's even more funny is that they actually believe that they have an "impact" on others by posting here. How silly, not too mention pathetic. Their self-esteem must be incredibly low to get involved in such "battles" on ET with anonymous posters. But if they want to follow me around ET spewing their Hate and that's the way that they VALUE their time, than so be it. Pretty funny, actually. I didn't know I had such control over people. LOL!

    Thanks again for your kind words.


    Mon Jan 17, 11:20 am ET

    In first interview, Giffords’ husband talks about his wife’s recovery and the ‘long, tough road ahead’

    By Holly Bailey


    Husband Mark Kelly will be interviewed by ABC's Diane Sawyer set to air tomorrow.
  43. This may not be such a popular viewpoint, but IMO keeping her alive for the "long, tough road ahead" is the <b>cruelest</b> thing people could possibly do to Giffords. Euthanasia is what I'd want if I were in her situation, no question about that.
  44. Would you also want euthanasia if you had to go the rest of your life without hard drugs and Russian teenage sluts?

    (No folks, I don't make this stuff up...)

  45. I agree with you whole heartedly, and i will never understand why people are not more honest in situations like this. I would rather die than live the rest of my life as a vegetable knowing i might somehow be a detriment to my family or the people around me. Is there anyone out here who can possibly argue that they would rather live as a vegetable who costs their family money, as opposed to just being dead?

    It reminds me of what you told me the other day on my thread where you said, "You and I value honesty over politeness. Most people do not." This line of thinking encapsulates my thought process.
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  47. Congratulations.

    You win the award for the BIGGEST piece of CLUELESS crap on ET for 2011.
    And we aren't even done with the month of January yet.


    You have no idea what her condition is.
    And you have no idea how she will respond to physical therapy and rehabilitation. Zero.

  48. I have just found the third and final ET troll capable of starting a thread riot, and guess what......you are it. Landis82 join retaildaytrader and King-Troll Opto777 to my ignore button.

  49. Congratulations.

    You win the award for the BIGGEST piece of CLUELESS crap on ET for 2011.
    And we aren't even done with the month of January yet.


    You have no idea what her condition is.
    And you have no idea how she will respond to physical therapy and rehabilitation. Zero
  50. Yeah . . . given how incredibly STUPID you are . . . I guess you'd want to have yourself EUTHANIZED when your doctors are telling you that you could be walking again in a matter of months.


    We should all be so lucky.
  51. Dude, chill. I know that a bullet went through her brain, so I know enough to say with 100% certainty that I'd much rather be euthanized than live out the rest of my life as a disabled person, even if I could 'recover' from that type of injury as well as anyone has ever recovered from that sort of thing. A 9mm bullet went through the poor lady's brain and came out the other side. Apparently you're a bit fuzzy on what that really means for her future prospects for quality of life. Going forward, even her 'best case scenario' will be a tortured, severely disabled existence. I wish it wasn't so and I wish she could 'get well soon', but wishing or denying the obvious doesn't really change anything, does it?
  52. I like this guy. :D
  53. Hmph.
    I suppose there's a reason I put this piece of scrap metal on ignore.
    It's funny; I always doubt myself at first, but in every case, the person I decide isn't worth my time says something at least as stupid as the comment that made me do it in the first place.