For several reasons, I have decided that ETFs are just not suitable for trading

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by BPtrader, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. some time ago, Jim Cramer said ETFs do not make sense, now I agree with him.

    Same as ETFs, index futures also are not suitable for trading.

    Maybe they are good for long-term investment.
     
  2. clacy

    clacy

    Ok, so you make a claim, but don't even give your reasoning?
     
  3. Since you ask so politely, I will answer:

    1. cancellation among components/sectors.

    2. not subject to direct buying/selling.

    3. murky conversion between components and the instrument.

    4. arbitrary weighting.

    5. unclear roles of leader/follower.

    6. friction between futures and cash.

    7. Red_Ink.
     
  4. The larger the ETF, the less problems you will have.

    IMHO, only 20 or 30 ETFs can be traded efficiently, the rest are just fillers. Note the word: efficiently.
     
  5. RM686

    RM686

    I agree with zgtrader. I only trade ETFS both long and short time with no problem. You have to pick the right ones. Never pick a new one.
     
  6. ETF's were a great idea years ago. I made good money with them. But they're just fee-sucking machines for institutions that "sponsor" them now. Might as well trade the individual components in most cases. Top 30 volume ETFs are ok, the rest suck.
     
  7. jprad

    jprad

    ETFs are the only thing that I recommend to family members who want to profit from a falling market.

    No way I'd recommend an individual stock to people who think that holding an overnight short GE carries the same risk as a bare-bones, cash-poor biotech who just scored a phase III approval on their lead candidate.
     
  8. RM686

    RM686

    risktaker
    how much money would you need to buy each stock in the S&P 500. Oops for got my dentist has all my money 2 root canals and 3 caps ago. Thats why I buy ETFS.
    Seriously I would limit my selection to the top 20 in volume and have been around at least 3 years. :)
     
  9. Just to add, these are the 20 big ETFs (sorted by volume):

    SPY S&P Dep Receipts
    XLF S&P Sel Financial Spdr Fund
    QQQQ PowerShares QQQ Trust Series 1
    EEM iShares MSCI Emerg Mkt Index F
    FAZ Financial Bear 3x Shares
    IWM iShares Russell 2000 Index Tr
    UYG Ultra Financials ProShares
    UNG United States Natural Gas Fund
    SDS UltraShort S&P 500 ProShares
    FAS Financial Bull 3x Shares
    SSO ProShares Ultra S&P 500
    SRS UltraShort Real Estate ProShrs
    URE Ultra Real EstateProShares
    SKF UltraShort Financials ProShare
    EWJ iShares MSCI Japan Index Fd
    IYR iShares DJ US R/E Index Tr
    FXI iShares FTSE/Xinhua China 25
    QID UltraShort QQQ ProShares
    EFA iShares MSCI EAFE Index Tr
    XLE S&P Sel Energy Spdr Fund

    Although, some consider the below list to be the most popular.

    SPY S&P Dep Receipts
    QQQQ PowerShares QQQ Trust Series 1
    EEM iShares MSCI Emerg Mkt Index F
    IWM iShares Russell 2000 Index Tr
    XLF S&P Sel Financial Spdr Fund
    EWJ iShares MSCI Japan Index Fd
    EFA iShares MSCI EAFE Index Tr
    FXI iShares FTSE/Xinhua China 25
    IYR iShares DJ US R/E Index Tr
    GLD SPDR Gold Trust
    XLE S&P Sel Energy Spdr Fund
    EWT iShares MSCI Taiwan Index Fd
    EWZ iShares MSCI Brazil Index Fd
    DIA Diamonds Trust, Series 1
    XLV S&P Sel Health Care Spdr Fund
    XLI S&P Sel Industrial Spdr Fund
    XLB S&P Sel Materials Spdr Fund
    EWH iShares MSCI Hong Kong Idx Fd
    XHB SPDR S&P Homebuilders
    ILF iShares S&P Latin Am 40 Index
     
  10. yes, need huge cash to trade ETF stocks...BUT...ETF options are the sole way to go...
     
    #10     Dec 31, 2009