Expiration Friday trading

Discussion in 'Options' started by TradeCat, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru


    Depends on the trade.

    • Long Options = If you're right, you make good money. If you're wrong, you lose a small amount of money. The R:R is very good.
    • Short Options = If you're right, you make a small amount of money. If you're wrong, you lose a good deal. The R:R is very poor.



    :)
     
    #61     Jul 9, 2016
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Lost 2/3rds on my Aapl shenanigans yesterday.... but it was only 1K.

    I sure wish you'd do that ATM strangle for me OG.... I don't have backtesting capabilities. If it were Weds of last week, where would that ATM strangle have predicted AAPL to close Friday? Was it $96.50? If it was, believe you me, I'm gonna get what I need to do it.
     
    #62     Jul 9, 2016
  3. OptionGuru

    OptionGuru




    On Sunday evening I'm going to start a thread dedicated to how and why long and short ATM straddles are Dead Money. With a couple live examples on SPY and some other underlying, maybe GOOGL.

    Stay tuned.



    :)
     
    #63     Jul 9, 2016
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  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Cool. Throw in a sub-chapter about using them as a tool for predicting. And mind you, I know this is is just one tool. Nothing is 100%, but I would be very interested to hear what you have to say about this. I think without major geo-political or geo-economic influences, ie, a dull market, this could be very useful, at least for me and the way I trade.
     
    #64     Jul 9, 2016
  5. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    If you are buying a shit load of cheap options, hoping for a big move, then last Friday would have paid off.

    Looking forward to OG's new thread - maybe ET is not that bad after all:D

    J_S
     
    #65     Jul 10, 2016
  6. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Been posting some Friday expire charts in the wrong thread - so back we come!

    I am short, so if market keeps going up I lose, back down and I win!

    J_S

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    #66     Jul 11, 2016
  7. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Here is the SP500 total volume - let's see if the rising prices with lower volume means anything!

    J_S

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    #67     Jul 11, 2016
  8. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Update for OI

    J_S

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    #68     Jul 12, 2016
  9. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    Update for OI

    J_S

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    #69     Jul 13, 2016
  10. Sig

    Sig

    Without knowing the probability of the small and large losses you can't know the R:R. For example, let me give you two choices.
    1. You have a .00000001% chance of winning $1,000 and a 99.9999999% chance of loosing $10.
    2. You have a 99.9999999% chance of winning $10 and a .00000001% of losing $1,000

    I'll take option 2 as many times as you'll let me, even though it's a "short options" play per above.
     
    #70     Jul 15, 2016