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Death of the Liberal Class

  1. This is rather long, and I normally do not watch such long speeches (45 min). But this one was really, really worth it. I'd be really interested in what some of you guys have to say on it (should you set the time aside to listen). It is by Chris Hedges, and it discusses the death of Liberalism in the United States, and what this means. You may not agree with everything he says (in principle), but it sure makes us think. Hedges is very much a liberal, and perhaps even socialist.

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  2. He gives a thumbnail sketch of Liberalism over some years...

    But with the recent re-election of Odumbo, his premise of, "death of the Liberal class" is totally invalid.

    Remember how after the 2010 mid-term elections some were touting "death of the Democrats... gone forever"?

    What say those folks now? I think Liberalism/Progressive-ism/Marxism/Communism is the future of America.

    The "Parasite Class" now outnumbers the "Capitalist Class", and there is no turning back.

    The Founders would be mortified what the greedy and stupid have done to their/our country.

    :mad: :mad:
     
  3. Did you listen to the whole speech? It doesn't sound as if you did, or if you did it doesn't sound as if you've gotten the point he was trying to make.
     
  4. Scat has a closed mind, all the points he needs are all ready in his head.
     
  5. I watched it again.

    No change here. Regardless of his perception of "success of the Liberal class".. they are now in power in America and will remain so.
     
  6. I watched it again.

    No change here. Regardless of his perception of "success of the Liberal class".. they are now in power in America and will remain so. The Liberal (Parasite) class has never been so healthy as now.... sadly

    Maybe I'm seeing this through a biased eye. I'm a Darwinist... "survival of the fittest... make your own way or fall by the wayside... nobody owes you a living", kind of thing.

    In a capitalist society, you're either "Capital" (business owner) or "Labor".. do the best you can for yourself. Just because you choose labor doesn't entitle you to the rewards of successful capital... regardless of what the bleeding hearts say.

    In America, you have choices based upon your abilities and efforts... Capital, high-priced labor, low-priced labor. If you don't like where you are, YOU change.... if you are able. If NOT able, don't piss-and-moan about the success of those who ARE able.
     
  7. That's fine. I am that way now, because I no longer care. But I do sympathize and understand where pure liberalism comes from - the desire to help your fellow man who is not able to help himself. The manner in which we do that today just enables that man to stay poor and never helps him get out of his status. This is done to keep his vote. The way this is done is quite extensive and broad based, and mentioned in the 45 min video, and that is the point. It will self destruct.
     
  8. 200-ish years ago, there was no Liberalism... no "social safety net"... you either made your own way in the world or just died off.

    As America became established as a country and our wealth began to grow, some lame-ass politician began to campaign on providing "social benefits to some at the expense of others".

    Started out being a small thing... now it's a BIG thing... in fact, it dominates the financial and political landscape of our country... and NOT to our benefit and future success.

    POLITICIANS caused this mess.. supported by the greedy, lazy, couldn't-make-it-on-their-own.

    If I were making the social support rules regarding unemployment...

    1. Unemployment benefits limited to 26-weeks.

    2. If you don't find employment in that time, you go onto "second tier of support"... that be "3 hots and a cot". That would motivate people to take any job rather than settle for "3 hots at taxpayer expense".

    3. Round up and expel ALL illegal immigrants... those jobs would become open and available American worker unemployeds... and without generous unemployment benefits, they'd be motivated to take those jobs rather than settle for "3 hots..."

    Of course we're not going to allow citizens to starve or freeze to death. Howerver, the best thing we can do for them and their self esteem is to make them "uncomfortable" so that they are motivated to do for themselves rather than make a life style out of sucking the parasite tit.
     
  9. See that post?

    Americans realize that these people reside within the GOP, and the people have spoken to that.:)
     

  10. There are countries that probably fit these faux darwin society people, but they aren't going to go there, because, well they're all hat and no cattle.
     
  11. My ET brethren, the last election proves beyond a doubt that the loony liberals have taken over.
    No sane human being would have voted for a person who believes it is okay to murder babies and to pull a complete cover up of Benghazi.
     
  12. No numb nuts. The sheeple "spoke" to keep and get more free stuff on the backs of productive tax payers now in the minority.
     
  13. The speaker is a liberal church pile of puke... those churches, the several mainline protestant churches, have a net worth so astoundingly large that they actually could pay off the national debt. I read a pr newswire release a long time ago about a guy that was hired away from a fortune 500 company to manage the assetts of one of those churches. It mentioned the total that he would be overseeing and it was just mind boggling, so many zeros that I actually didn't know what the terminology for it would be. I recall comparing it to the national debt at the time and it was larger, and that was just one of the churches. People have been leaving them estates for hundreds of years and all that stuff goes up with inflation...

    So what do they do? They are "liberal".. they don't pay taxes at all but wait, there is more.. [drumroll].. they advocate that we all dig deep and pay for the poor via the government!!
     
  14. He's not speaking so much about the death of liberalism as he is about the death of a country, our country. You cannot argue that both parties have not failed us. That both parties are not complicit in our demise. That both parties are not bought and paid for, or that we are subject to this inverted Totalitarianism he speaks of.
    I would argue what passes for capitalism in todays world is not really the cannablism he speaks of. It's more like being slowly consumed by a swarm, a small but powerful swarm of locust. This swarm moves from one sector to the next and so on until the entire country is consumed. Then they move on to the next country.
    I have said it here before, and I'll say it again. The decision was made back in the late 70's, early 80's, that it was more profitable to destroy America rather than tool it up for the 21st century. As they gut what's left, they build abroad and will eventually consume what get's built there. 200 years from now America will have been in 3rd world status for several decades and the cheap labor will be here. Round and round it goes.
     
  15. Mr BSAM how complete of a cover up could it be if you know about it?
     
  16. If the GOP speaks out against abortion it is labeled as a "war on women". If Republicans speak out against the murder of an ambassador and the subsequent blatant cover-up it is a "loony conspiracy".

    I'm with TT in that I don't need anymore convincing. The country is lost and is filled with people who would vote for their own impoverishment. Rather than channel my energy into participating in the political process to effect change I'm instead directing my efforts into "every man for himself" and giving up the sensibilities that used to manifest as charity and a social conscience.
     
  17. Oh shit, I guess Zimmerman can kiss that $20 donation goodbye now. No McDonald's tonight for the Zimmerman family. :)
     
  18. You obviously did not watch the video either, with that comment.
     
  19. You presume much and know little. About what I'd expect from an guy who shovels asphalt for a living.
     
  20. Wow!
    Brother Big, you just made me realize how much of an insider I must be.
    I should be at the top of the CIA!
    After all, I knew what a huge scam was going on weeks before Barack Obama knew.
    That guy needs to hire some dependable people.
    Think I will apply.
     
  21. You got my vote BSAM
     
  22. I imagine Obama got your vote as well so we know you haven't got the brains God gave to birds.
     
  23. Something to ponder, I turned down the CIA a little over 24 yrs ago.
    At the time I thought it would be boring , sometimes I regret the decision.

    Problem is I would have taken the oath of defending America against all enemies foreign and domestic LITERALLY.
     
  24. Sorry PT.

    "Sexual orientation is not protected under U.S. Constitution (at least according to current interpretations), and federal law does not treat sexual orientation as a protected class. So the CIA and FBI can not hire gays and lesbians."

    And, I think it is STUPID that these kind of rule exist in our Country.
     

  25. You are simply ill informed and wherever/whomever you quoted that from doesn't know what "protected class status " means anyway.
     
  26. Too bad you didn't take the job. You would have had to hunt down and shoot at least a half dozen of the posters here on ET to honor your oath. :D
     
  27. I was thinking more about the senate , house and state dept.
    I suppose the appropriate measures of defense are open to debate :D

    Shit nowadays if i had joined my status would be on an official shit list somewhere like in the movie "RED"

    one of my fav scenes, enjoy

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  28. That would be a frustrating task. They would just appoint and elect like minded idiots to replace them.