Day trading SPX index options. 100% daily ROI possible?

Discussion in 'Options' started by TraderMontreal, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. Hi,

    What is the best strategy to day trade SPX options?
    I am trading one account where I am only allowed to trade SPX index options and no naked positions and no portfolio margin. I would love to day trade futures but it's not possible for now.

    - Would you buy debit spreads in the direction you think you are going?
    - Would you sell ATM credit spreads in the opposite direction?
    - Would you leg in the spread buying first the long side and then selling to close complete the spread?
    - Buying an ATM option and hoping for a good move?

    I know of someone who claims to make 100% ROI PER DAY! Probably he doesn't have my restrictions. But he doesn't want to share his formula. Is that guy BS or is it feasible?

    Thanks a lot in advance,

    TraderMontreal
     
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  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    It's 100% BS.
     
  3. The tricky part is that -100% roi in a day is also possible. OTM options oftentimes double in a day or an hour, but if you're on the wrong side, you can lose 80% of your investment too. Your friend is probably doing this with a small percentage of his capital because of the potential risk. Classic risk management. Question your friend further and ask what his strategies are.
     
    darwin666 likes this.
  4. He probably had a few 100% ROI days trading the far OTM puts/calls during an OpEx...Just a cursory glance at the charts would tell you that 95% of the time the SPX can't move enough for someone to consistently achieve that (nevermind trying to get fills on both sides of the trades and slippage)...
     




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    :)
     
    cdcaveman likes this.
  6. Can he do it with high beta stocks? Or only trading gaps?
     
  7. stoic

    stoic

    mmm... let me see...?

    If a guy could pull off a 100% ROI.... and he did that only once a week....starting with only $2,000..... compounded... that would work out to $9,007,199,254,140,990,000 by the end of the year..... mmm... at a 38% tax rate that would be $3,422,735,716,801,580,000.....

    Hey!!! That would pay off the National Debt !
     
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  8. One 2x trade per week starting with $100.00

    1. $100
    2. $200
    3. $400
    4. $800
    5. $1,600
    6. $3,200
    7. $6,400
    8. $12,800
    9. $25,600
    10. $51,200
    11. $102,400
    12. $204,800
    13. $409,600
    14. $819,200
    15. $1,638,400
    16. $3,276,800
    17. $6,553,600
    18. $13,107,200
    19. $26,214,400
    20. $52,428,800
    21. $104,857,600
    22. $209,715,200
    23. $419,430,400
    24. $838,860,800
    25. $1,677,721,600
    26. $3,355,443,200
    27. $6,710,886,400
    28. $13,421,772,800
    29. $26,843,545,600
    30. $53,687,091,200
    31. $107,374,182,400
    32. $214,748,364,800
    33. $429,496,729,600
    34. $858,993,459,200
    35. $1,717,986,918,400
    36. $3,435,973,836,800
    37. $6,871,947,673,600
    38. $13,743,895,347,200
    39. $27,487,790,694,400
    40. $54,975,581,388,800
    41. $109,951,162,777,600
    42. $219,902,325,555,200
    43. $439,804,651,110,400
    44. $879,609,302,220,800
    45. $1,759,218,604,441,600
    46. $3,518,437,208,883,200
    47. $7,036,874,417,766,400
    48. $14,073,748,835,532,800
    49. $28,147,497,671,065,600
    50. $56,294,995,342,131,200
    51. $112,589,990,684,262,400
    52. $225,179,981,368,524,800

    I'm at week 14 ;)



    :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2015
    darwin666 likes this.
  9. Did he later clarify Who actually made the 100% ROI on his investment amount?
     
  10. Go All the Way_
    Push it to the Limits..., :cool:
     
    #10     Aug 23, 2015