Covidiots - Compilation

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MarketDiver, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    My cock is
     
    #721     Nov 8, 2022
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    ....visible now that you lost the fat rolls from panicking about comorbidities from the WuFlu?
     
    #722     Nov 8, 2022
  3. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Always been easy to see. From space.
    That extra inch from losing 40lbs doesn’t hurt. Now we are at 9 inches.
     
    #723     Nov 9, 2022
  4. Yes, that is exactly correct. Here is the science in brief. It's a known theory called Antigenic Fixation or OAS (Original Antigenic Sin). It can also happen with naturally acquired antibodies.

    The mRNA shot injects ONLY ONE spike protein out of 13 possible spike proteins and NO nucleocapsid proteins. THEREFORE, you can only develop anti-bodies to the single spike protein. Unfortunately, viruses mutate and they will mutate around a barrier (evasion). However, the body prefers by a great margin to throw out antibodies from it's library rather than wait and laboriously create them anew.
    So, it will recognize new virus and reply ONLY with the useless antibodies to the no longer existent spike protein.

    (An unvaccinated, prior infected person will have full immunity to all 13 spikes AND to nucleocapsid proteins from BOTH antibodies and T-Cells. Their library has a far more robust response. They will never know the virus entered their system to quickly die. THAT's called immunity.)

    The vaccinated person will therefore be unable to mount any legitimate immune response. That is why people keep saying idiot things like this:
    "I just got Covid for the 3rd time and it was awful. Good thing I was triple vaxxed or it would have been worse!"

    Many immunologists saying this. and OAS is a long-standing theory with clinical and epidemiological evidence behind it.
     
    #724     Nov 10, 2022
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  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Yeah, I looked it up. And the problem is the same for the vaxxed and unvaxxed alike. If you were unvaccinated and caught the original strain two yours ago, your body produced an antibody for that specific variant's spike protein. So now the natural immunity to the original strain produces the same "repertoire freeze" effect that occurs. So when a new variant comes around, they have just as much chance of getting terribly ill as the vaxxed person.
     
    #725     Nov 10, 2022
  6. Reread my post: nat. immunity produces nucleocapsid AND 13 spike antibodies.
    vax. 'immunity' produces 1 spike antibody.
    You seriously trying to say that is the same outcome, cuz - that's not the theory, nor is it the current outcomes.
     
    #726     Nov 10, 2022
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    I am just going by what my quick and cursory search about this OAS found...

    "Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting...is the propensity of the immune system to preferentially use immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system "trapped" by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections. Antibodies or T-cells induced during infections with the first variant of the pathogen are subject to repertoire freeze, a form of original antigenic sin..."

    This would apply to both vaxxed and unvaxxed peeps equally.
     
    #727     Nov 10, 2022
  8. It would apply equally IF vaxxed and unvaxxed immunities were equivalent. They are NOT equivalent as explained above. To repeat - nat immunity has antigens to 13 spike proteins and the nucleocapsid. The vax contained only a single spike protein and thus has antigens ONLY to that spike protein. As a trader, can you get the difference between 13 and1? They are different. The nucleocapsid is different, too and mutates much more slowly.
    Therefore, nat. immunity provides immunity even if the 13th spike protein mutates, whereas vax immunity does NOT. Don't know why you can't get that these two forms of protection are quite different, but it's right there in the mRNA vax theory.

    tldr: mRNA vax antigens are dramatically narrower than natural immunity. You seem unable to see this fundamental concept in the explanation because you refuse to address it.
    So, I'm sorry. I tried to help clarify it, but I apparently failed in this case. We'll have to agree to disagree.
     
    #728     Nov 11, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    It's not a question of disagreeing. You are shoveling bullshiat with no basis in scientific fact.
     
    #729     Nov 11, 2022
  10. Crisis as excess deaths soar to levels higher than during Covid pandemic/ The Telegraph

    https://www.medicdebate.org/node/3154?language=en

    The new data follow analysis from The Telegraph that showed that in the past six months, there have been more excess deaths from causes other than Covid than deaths due to coronavirus for the entire year.

    There have been 18,734 deaths due to Covid this year, but since May there were 24,440 deaths where the primary cause was another condition.

    Over the past six months, non-Covid excess deaths have been running at three times the rate of Covid deaths.

    AND:

    September 13, 2021
    England to offer COVID vaccine to all 12- to 15-year-olds


    England Vax Approval Kids.png
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2022
    #730     Nov 12, 2022