Challenge: Real or Fake?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by Quiet1, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. Quiet1

    Quiet1

    Just found this old random vs fake contest on ET from, eh, a VERY long time ago. Appears that the person who ran it has left up the web page with charts since then.

    Without searching the archives, how many can you guess: random or fake?

    http://users.rcn.com/jmcgraw/index.htm

    Disclosure: I got 10/10 first time round back then and again now re-doing it blind. Seemed even easier this time than I remember from before and took about 2 minutes. So I'd say 9/10 is the minimum expected correct response you should be looking for. If it helps, the contest was done prior to 2003.

    Will post answers over the weekend if no-one spoils it first by linking back...

    Q1
     
  2. What is the point? You can make money with random and you can make money with fake.
     
  3. Quiet1

    Quiet1

    It's for fun. Maybe you're familiar with the idea.
     
  4. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Real : #1 #3 #5 #8 #10
    Fake : #2 #4 #6 #7 #9
     
  5. Quiet1

    Quiet1

    Thanks for playing! 6/10.

    Maybe it's harder than I thought.
     
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  6. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Maybe I just suck @ it
     
  7. Sig

    Sig

    Since you asked, the implication is that if your technical analysis finds trading opportunities in truly random data then you're being fooled by randomness (great book btw) and if you think of yourself as a technical expert but can't tell actual from random data then again, you've been fooled by randomness. Not that recognizing real from fake data means your technical indicators work, but at least it shows either an academic or intuitive grasp of markets which would seem to be a necessary but not sufficient condition for reliably making money in said markets over a long period of time.
     
  8. Quiet1

    Quiet1

    Old Results thread: https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/random-chart-contest-results.11820/

    Chart#1 “ Random
    Chart#2 €“ Random
    Chart#3 €“ Motorola (MOT) April 1993 to May 1994
    Chart#4 €“ 3M, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing (MMM) April 1992 to July 1993
    Chart#5 €“ Autodesk (ADSK) July 1990 to September 1991
    Chart#6 €“ Random
    Chart#7 €“ Random
    Chart#8 €“ Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) February 1993 to June 1994
    Chart#9 €“ Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJ-30/DJIA) June 1984 to August 1985
    Chart#10 €“ Random

    The main things to look for or are the relationships between closes and next open. Also, volatility in real life tends to persist locally for a short while. Keeping those two bits in mind should get you 9/10 at least!

    Q1