Cease Fire?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Shelling heard around Syrian town after Turkish-U.S. ceasefire deal
    The ceasefire was announced some 13 hours earlier by U.S. Vice President Mike Pence after talks in Ankara with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.
    By REUTERS
    October 18, 2019 16:43

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    A fire is seen in the Syrian town of Ras al-Ain as seen from the Turkish border town of Ceylanpinar, Sanliurfa province, Turkey, October 17, 2019. (photo credit: REUTERS/STOYAN NENOV)


    CEYLANPINAR, Turkey - Shelling could be heard at the Syrian-Turkish border on Friday morning despite a five-day ceasefire agreed between Turkey and the United States, and Washington said the deal covered only a small part of the territory Ankara aims to seize.

    Reuters journalists at the border heard machine-gun fire and shelling and saw smoke rising from the Syrian border battlefield city of Ras al Ain, although the sounds of fighting had subsided by mid-morning.

    The truce, announced on Thursday by U.S. Vice President Mike Pence after talks in Ankara with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, sets out a five-day pause to let the Kurdish-led SDF militia withdraw from an area controlled by Turkish forces.

    The SDF said air and artillery attacks continued to target its positions and civilian targets in Ral al Ain.

    "Turkey is violating the ceasefire agreement by continuing to attack the town since last night," SDF spokesman Mustafa Bali tweeted.

    The Kurdish-led administration in the area said Turkish truce violations in Ras al Ain had caused casualties, without giving details.

    The deal was aimed at easing a crisis that saw President Donald Trump order a hasty and unexpected U.S. retreat, which his critics say amounted to abandoning loyal Kurdish allies that fought for years alongside U.S. troops against Islamic State.

    Trump has praised the deal, saying it would save "millions of lives."
     
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The white house traffics in falsehoods? Say it isn't so

     
  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    "the ultimate solution", he has the best phrases.

    I recall that book from the library at home, involved an alternate history of the world where the Axis powers won WWII. Basically what happened after the "Final Solution" with the Jews.

    Nice overtones Bone Spurs.
     
  4. There is no such thing as a cease fire during combat operations, only opportunities to regroup, resupply and rearm. An actual cease fire happens when your enemy is defeated and surrendered without condition. We're a long way from that, as any PFC with a day in the field could tell you. Guess wanna be General Trump didn't learn that while attending the rich boy military school.
    Our fearless leader playing the next battle.
     
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  5. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Are we nation building or are we not nation building? Are we going to carve a piece out of Turkey and Syria for the Kurds? What is our mission in Syria? To suppress ISIS?

    If we want to save the Kurds then we should do what the French did with their Hmong allies in Vietnam. Give them a little corner of the earth in our hemisphere and move them there.

    I used to launch rockets in French Guiana. Up in the hills there were huge Hmong villages, mainly Cacao, that the French gave to the Hmong in perpetuity. I used to go up there to visit and have lunch and take a swim in the river. Nicest people ever.
     
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    That's not a bad idea.
    Those pictures of that land over there.... hmmm.
    Ya know, since they're such good fighters and all, and they don't seem to mind living in a desert.... I know a nice little chunk of desert land that has about 2500 miles that need patrolled that nobody's using. They do need a home....
    Kurdizona.
     
  7. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    I was thinking of Texas. Give them the Llano Estacado lol.
     
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    They must be self-sufficient as f*ck, look at how they live. They'd probably be a huge boost to the economy for real. And think how much money we'd save on the border, not to mention we'd go from 100,000 crossings/month to zero.
    How much does that save?
    .....Perhaps enough to buy Greenland with all its natural resources and those new N. Atlantic shipping lanes. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/21/heres-why-trump-wants-to-buy-greenland.html
    Maga!