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Bardot Prosecuted For Complaining About Muslim Invasion Of France

  1. I suppose many of the younger people get tired of hearing us complain about PC, hate crime legislation, speech codes and the like. They have been taught that you don't have a right to say anything that offends a protected group, which means pretty much everyone but white Christian men. This article explains what we fear. For those too young to know her, Brigette Bardot was by far the most famous actress in France for most of her life.

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    PARIS (Reuters) - French former film star Brigitte Bardot went on trial on Tuesday for insulting Muslims, the fifth time she has faced the charge of "inciting racial hatred" over her controversial remarks about Islam and its followers.

    Prosecutors asked that the Paris court hand the 73-year-old former sex symbol a two-month suspended prison sentence and fine her 15,000 euros ($23,760) for saying the Muslim community was "destroying our country and imposing its acts".

    Since retiring from the film industry in the 1970s, Bardot has become a prominent animal rights activist but she has also courted controversy by denouncing Muslim traditions and immigration from predominantly Muslim countries.

    She has been fined four times for inciting racial hatred since 1997, at first 1,500 euros and most recently 5,000.

    Prosecutor Anne de Fontette told the court she was seeking a tougher sentence than usual, adding: "I am a little tired of prosecuting Mrs Bardot."

    Bardot did not attend the trial because she said she was physically unable to. The verdict is expected in several weeks.

    French anti-racist groups complained last year about comments Bardot made about the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha in a letter to President Nicolas Sarkozy that was later published by her foundation.

    Muslims traditionally mark Eid al-Adha by slaughtering a sheep or another animal to commemorate the prophet Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son on God's orders.

    France is home to 5 million Muslims, Europe's largest Muslim community, making up 8 percent of France's population.

    "I am fed up with being under the thumb of this population which is destroying us, destroying our country and imposing its acts," the star of 'And God created woman' and 'Contempt' said.

    Bardot has previously said France is being invaded by sheep-slaughtering Muslims and published a book attacking gays, immigrants and the unemployed, in which she also lamented the "Islamisation of France".

    (Reporting by Thierry Leveque; writing by Francois Murphy, editing by Mary Gabriel)
     
  2. The thing that really got me in this story was that the prosecutor, far from being ashamed of prosecuting someone for rather mild statements of opinion, was actually annoyed that Bardot would not knuckle under. What's next? Prison?
     
  3. You mentioned that young people might be getting sick of your comments.

    What America needs is a new kind of Conservatism, a branch which recognizes these problems (and 8% of the French population being Muslim is a huge potential problem, no doubt about it, and that's a shocking statistic, by the way. There is no doubt in my mind that their religious leaders are instructing the women to have 10 children each, with an eye to 30 years out when the number will be 24%) and fights against PC inanity while at the same time violently denouncing homophobic idiots who are ranting against gays because they are actually grey-zoners themselves and don't know how to deal with their attraction to individuals of the same sex, and their kin, the Jew/black/Asian haters that seem to gravitate towards your side.
     
  4. Must be France does not have the equivalent of the First Amendment, or a certain group of people are off limits for any criticism or complaints, while other groups of people are considered to be all-out fair game by the same ones crying for special protection.

    Even authors with no intention of insulting islam are issued fatwas when not writing to their idea of perfection and even people remotely connected with the book are killed.

    Goodbye, France. Enjoy your wine before it is banned.
     
  5. I wonder how Christians and Jews are protected in Arab countries, when someone badmouths them.

    Are the "inciters" fined or are they praised????

    After all, there seems to be a death sentence for anyone who has the nerve to convert from Islam to something else.
     
  6. My point was that young people may not appreciate what they are in danger of losing, namely their rights to free expression and free thought. They seem to have been indoctrinated through PC and multiculturalism to think that protected groups are legitimately off limits to criticism. Even you seem to think that while muslims are fair game, homosexuality is not.

    Viewing homosexual conduct as abnormal and immoral is a religious doctrine protected by the First Amendment. That is not "ranting against gays," it's being in line with the traditional teaching of every major religion. If someone thinks obesity is unwise, does that mean they hate fat people?
     
  7. Interesting observation, Nik.

    Found this via Google and it's from 2006: "The number of Muslims in contemporary Europe is estimated to be 50 million. It is expected to double in twenty years. By 2025, one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families. Today Mohammed is already the most popular name for new-born boys in Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and other major European cities.”

    Bye, bye Europe. Better enjoy your wine, cigarettes, strip shows, and nude beaches while you can before all the above become punishable by death by order of the Caliphate.
     
  8. There are a lot of religious doctrines that aren't protected by the First Amendment. We're seeing a polygamy case play out right now in Texas, and those people are claiming "religious persecution." No sale. The dirty little secret of politics and religion is that the state always trumps the church; the church wins merely to the extent that it can convince the state that supporting the church is in both their best interests. If the church is strong and predominant, like the Catholic Church in Europe in the Middle Ages, then the Church is the de facto ruler, but that leads to abuse of power and eventual rebellion (Martin Luther; the Anglican Church). Fringe religions like Mormonism have no chance unless they are predominant in an area (like Utah), but Texas ain't Utah so they're in trouble there.

    Muslims, even those who are a minority in an area, have revealed themselves to be less tolerant than most fundamentalist Christians or Jews, so they're now getting little sympathy from the majority, whereas most gays who are out of the closet try very hard to live and let live. That's the point traderNik was making. A reasonable person can tolerate consensual behavior he doesn't approve of but that isn't being imposed on him, whereas tolerating intolerance from others is asking a bit much.
     
  9. I agree with you that freedom of expression and other freedoms have been eroded in the West as a result of PC BS.

    I also agree that freedom of speech includes the right to censure people for their sexual behaviour. Sure, you can say 'I think homosexuality is immoral'. You'd be a nitwit if you did, but you can say it. As the member above pointed out, radical Muslims deserve our censure whereas homosexuals obviously don't.

    I just found it unfortunate that yet again, a right winger made a good point about the unfettered immigration of Muslims into France, and then we hear that she's just another run-of-the-mill nutbag who thinks there's something wrong with homosexuality. I see the two viewpoints go hand in hand on here quite often. I'm just saying it's too bad. A New Conservative movement could be in power for the next 50 years straight if they could only weed out the freaks who make these kind of statements. The number of middle and middle left voters they would get from the Dems would far outweigh any extreme right homophobes that they lost. This type of crap should be denounced by a New Right - that's all I'm saying.

    I suppose you have a point about this type of view being in line with the major religions (at least their official line). I grew up in a community where the United Church was the big one and my friends and their parents, although Christian, have no such hangups.
     
  10. Scary. That number coming out of France was a shocker for me. I had no idea.
     
  11. That's what happens in the Fifth Republic.
     
  12. Soon America will have her 1st Muslim president, worry about your own ass first :D
     
  13. A continent that went from Papism to atheism in 100 years is hardly going to reverse course for a minority of booze-swilling, fornicating, chain-smoking 3rd generation unobserving former muslims. Education, western culture, booze, and cross-breeding will neutralise radical Islam in Europe within a generation.
     
  14. First part is correct. Lack of consitutional provision for free speech is extremely dangerous in any civilised society. The "hate crime" legislation, which has its roots in German, Swiss and Austrian holocaust denial laws, has sowed the first seeds of a potential Orwellian state where thought and speech becomes a crime. The UK, with its higher levels of violence and warfare in the history & culture of the nation, is more robust and if that happens here, people will respond with violent protest and direct action (at least this Brit will), as they did with the Poll Tax riots in the late 80s. However, France, Holland, and the more "liberal" countries have already caved in to some degree, and with their supine pacifist populations the political elites can get away with it.

    The second part is a bit misleading - Americans can be issued fatwas and gunned down by terrorists too.
     
  15. Religious doctrines aren't protected by the first amendment. Only the *right to express* those doctrines is.

    The teachings of every major religion are, in this case, prejudiced narrow-minded immoral bullshit. As long as homosexuals engange only in consensual conduct and do not harm others, there is nothing immoral at all in their conduct. Condemning such people purely because of the deluded rantings of a conman claiming to represent an imaginary god is the only immoral thing here.
     
  16. That's your opinion, and at least for now in the US, you're entitled to it, as are the vast majority who would disagree with you. The vast majority of those people however would recognize and defend your right to express your opinion, even though they found it revolting and ignorant. The problem is that many on the left don't feel that way. They feel that opinions that stray from the PC line should be repressed.

    As for your understadning of the First Amendment, I suggest it is broader than you state. There is nothing in it that limits the freedom of religion to expression only. It speaks in terms of "freedom of religion", which encompasses not only the practice of religion but the belief system and doctrines behind them. In extreme cases, the state can override religious doctrine, eg by compelling medical assistance for a child, but criminalizing religious doctrine would be clearly unconstitutional.
     
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    TraderZ;
    Fines & prison;
    or execution.

    I wonder if our current Baptist Sunday School literature [teaching Book of Genisis,chapter by chapter ]including God destroying Sodom & Gomorah would be hate speech in France??

    Not sure why Bridget B beef with'' unemployed'';
    too much french welfare perhaps???

    Think Rev Wright is a phoney- false prophet ,who seems to refuse to preach much against black sins.But sure like to snarl like a wolf against ''whitey ''& white sin. But he has a constitutional right to spew garbage. And while you cant snarl ''fire'' in a crowded theater;
    his stage/theater is not that crowded.LOL

    Fox news had a interesting article today about Pastor Rod Parsly,DR John Hagee endorsing Senator McCain. NYT, moveon.org having a fit over that .LOL

    Hate speech laws are absurd, & can be free speech interference;, they will never prevent a holocaust.
    As if a murderer doesn't already hate his victim.
    JPFO [Jews fot Possession of Firearms Ownership.] & NRA may stop another Holocaust.
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    However even the French underground did some good warfare against Nazi war machine. And if you want an interesting read,GOOG ,JPFO research linking Nazi gun laws with American gun laws......

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    Re; Attraction to peoople/same sex, some of those are men;
    not that i usually look/think @ men as ''same sex''

    T-Nik;
    Well i don't know why[principal] Aaron Zellman mentioned the fact a lesbian joined [JPFO] Jews for Posession of Firearms Ownership. But he printed that once,perhaps for such a time as this.

    Mark Twain said the main trouble he had with God was he thought God should hit more people with lightening bolts, Frankly God has more unconditional love, so he doesnt operate like that all the time.
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    Some say a high %% of homosexuals really never had;
    much of a dad. Maybe so.I have an attraction /love to my heavenly father,through Jesus, & earthly Dad, but its not a sexual attraction.

    Had a stranger stop me for directions once.i figured he was a homosexual,yet he wanted to chat a while. So we did, we didnt insult each other with ''homophobe.,idiot...& other insulting names ''

    Mentioned, to that stranger,I am a Christian,for several good reasons, including i didnt want him to hit on me.LOL

    :cool: