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are the grownups taking control. i smell a deal.

  1. are republicans finally ready to compromise? i think so. market thinks so.
     
  2. are you claiming that the democrats will compromise nothing?
     
  3. Definitely, the GOP is chastened. They lost an election that was theirs to lose, and they successfully snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

    The new GOP will have four years to rebrand. And they are going to put max effort into this.
     
  4. obama has been willing to compromise for over 2 years. 2.5 in cuts for every dollar in new revenue.
    its republicans who have been stamping their feet like little children and saying my way or no way.
     
  5. people afraid to be short with the possibility of a deal over the weekend.
     
  6. Europe is still an austerity created mess.
     
  7. No moron, a debt created mess.
     
  8. So THAT is why the ES is up two points?
     
  9. It takes two to not compromise. Obama is not willing to move one sqaure inch on raising taxes, and neither on the Republicans, hence the gridlock.
     
  10. I smell a punt, and next December we'll be right back here again without anything of substance having been done. And then it's on to the 2014 campaign where congress can all point fingers at each other. Will the stupid f'n public re-elect them again. You bet.
     
  11. Only if you define austerity as higher spending, and higher taxes.
     
  12. The planet disagrees with you. I'm not saying that necessarily means you're wrong, but that's the way to bet.
     
  13. You and your band of pinkos can disagree all you want I have facts on my side.

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  14. That chart was debunked more than a year ago.

    Edit: correction, debunked in May 2012.
     
  15. Here's something re austerity in Europe not written by or about The Washington Post or Paul Krugman...

    China weighs into Europe's austerity battle

    "Tania Branigan in Beijing and Graeme Wearden
    guardian.co.uk, Friday 16 November 2012 18.44 GMT

    "Top official at China's £300bn sovereign wealth fund said that the depth of public anger in the eurozone could lead to a 'complete discarding' of austerity programmes.

    "Opposition to Europe's austerity programmes intensified on Friday as a top official at China's £300bn sovereign wealth fund warned that the public are at "breaking point" and protesters demonstrated in solidarity against the International Monetary Fund in Manila.

    "Jin Liqun, chair of the supervisory board of the China Investment Corporation (CIC), said that undue harshness risked a backlash which could end with necessary economic reforms being abandoned. Jin, who has previously argued that Europeans should work harder, repeated an earlier warning that governments had spent unsustainably in the past and need to be more fiscally responsible, but added that the depth of public anger could lead to a "complete discarding" of austerity programmes.

    "The fact the public are taking to the streets and resorting to violence indicates the general public's tolerance has hit its limits," he said.

    "Unions are now involved in organised protests; demonstrations and strikes. It smacks of the 1930s," he said.

    "The general public's tolerance of austerity has been stretched to breaking point."

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  16. These deals are always a trade for certain tax increases now in exchange for uncertain spending cuts that may or may not occur in the distant future. Unless there's a way to guarantee the spending cuts will happen, it's just another politicians' lie designed to screw the taxpayers.
     
  17. The facts disagree with you.