Ann Coulter Signs Up For Obamacare, Sort Of

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. From her latest offering:

    With zero help from the Obamacare website, I eventually figured out that there was one lone insurance plan that would cover treatment at a reputable hospital. The downside is, no doctors take it.

    So my only two health insurance options -- and yours, too, as soon as the waivers expire, America! -- are: (1) a plan that no doctors take; or (2) a plan that no hospitals take. You either pay for all your doctor visits and tests yourself, or you pay for your cancer treatment yourself. And you pay through the nose in either case.

    That's not insurance! It's a huge transfer of wealth from people who work for a living to those who don't, accomplished by forcing the workers to buy insurance that's not insurance. Obamacare has made actual health insurance "illegal."

    It's not "insurance" when what I want to insure against isn't covered, but paying for other people's health care needs -- defined broadly -- is mandatory.

    It's as if you wanted to buy a car, so you paid for a Toyota -- but then all you got was a 10-speed bike, with the rest of your purchase price going to buy cars, bikes and helmets for other people.

    Or, more precisely, it would be like having the option of car insurance that covers either collisions or liability, but not both. Your car insurance premium would be gargantuan, because most of it would go to buy insurance, gas and air fresheners for other people in the plan.

    If you have employer-provided health care, you may not have to make the 400 phone calls I had to, but the result will be the same: You're not getting what is commonly known as "insurance." You're getting a massive bill to pay for other people's chiropractors, marriage counselors, birth control pills, smoking cessation programs, "preventive care" appointments and pre-existing conditions.

    Health insurance has been outlawed, replaced with a welfare program that has been renamed "insurance."

    When Matt Drudge decided he'd rather pay for his own health care, liberals hysterically denounced him for not buying an Obamacare transfer-the-wealth, fake "insurance" plan. It used to be shameful to be a public charge. Now it's shameful to pay for yourself.

    And it's shameful to work for yourself. The self-employed are currently the only Americans subjected to Obamacare. (In a way, it's lucky for the Democrats that there aren't enough of us to hurt them in this year's midterm elections!)

    But we're the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come. You may have an employer-provided plan now, but the waivers can't go on forever. If you live in America, your health insurance is going to disappear, too.

    The government simply cannot force all insurance companies to give subsidized health care to a third of the country, to ignore the pre-existing health conditions of its customers, to pay for every little thing tangentially related to health -- like smoking cessation programs, marital counseling and pediatric dental care -- and also expect them to cover your cancer treatment.

    It doesn't matter if you've been paying for insurance your whole adult life. That policy is now "illegal." Put your hands in the air, nice and easy, and step away from the policy ...

    You 99-percenters still unaffected by Obamacare will blithely go to the polls this November and vote on some teeny-tiny issue, completely unaware of the total destruction of health insurance in America. The waivers have worked.

    Now we'll have to wait 40 years for a future Mickey Kaus to come along and expose the disastrous consequences of this horrendous government program, just like the real Mickey Kaus did with welfare. But for now, I say: Screw you, Mickey Kaus.

    COPYRIGHT 2014 ANN COULTER
    DISTRIBUTED BY UNIVERSAL UCLICK


    See the rest of her adventure at http://www.anncoulter.com/
     
  2. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    Her car analogy was similar to what I stated quite a while ago ...

    I had said what if I wanted a simple sedan that met my needs by Odumbo said that everybody has to purchase the same vehicle, that it's mandatory. Then he throws in that some of us will pay full sticker price while others will get that same vehicle with subsidies up to 90% or more. Is that fair? Hell no.

    This supposed insurance that Odumbo keeps pushing has to change as we move forward. There are so many problems and a incredible amount of potential fraud on the horizon. People will lie about income to maximize subsidies. We had 'Navigators' recorded telling people to do just that. And there is no system in place to even match up incomes against what people claim relative to the subsidy they receive, making it an 'honor' system.

    Add in all the other issues from losing your doctor, your hospital, mandatory coverages that for many can never even be used, exploding premiums, continued web site issues, Odumbo giving out new exemptions all the time, including allowing enrollment now well into April, and any number of other things and this has 99% chance of failure. Baffling most is why Odumbo, Reif, Sebelius and the rest of the Dumbocrrats won't admit it.
     
  3. Their objective is to fool low information voters long enough to slip past the next election. Then they can blame any problems on greedy insurance companies and doctors.
     
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Republicans Couldn't Stop Florida From Becoming An Obamacare Success Story
    AP | by KELLI KENNEDY
    Posted: 03/27/2014 8:15 am EDT Updated: 03/27/2014 8:59 am EDT

    "MIAMI (AP) — Florida's Republican leaders have fought the Affordable Care Act at every turn, banning navigators from county health departments, offering no state dollars to boost outreach efforts to 3.5 million uninsured and leading the fight to repeal the law. Yet the state has emerged as a tale of what went right with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

    "More than 440,000 Florida residents had been enrolled through the federal marketplace through the end of February, putting Florida on pace to exceed the federal government's initial projections by the time enrollment closes March 31.

    "The numbers are impressive for a state where Republicans control the governor's mansion and both houses of the Legislature. By comparison, Republican-leaning Texas has enrolled 295,000 through the federal site, even though its population is about a third larger than Florida's.

    "Florida's success is due partly to infrastructure created in the swing state by Democratic-affiliated groups during the last three presidential elections, along with continued investment by the Obama administration and nonprofit advocacy groups in the diverse state that will likely be competitive in November's midterm election."

    More>>
     
  5. More of Ann's adventures:


    I've been thrown off my health insurance -- THANKS, OBAMACARE! -- and have spent hours and hours over the past month trying to figure out my options now that the Democrats have made my old plan, which I liked, "illegal." (I prefer to think of my plan as "undocumented.")

    Whom do I bill for the hours of work Obamacare forced me to perform? How about you, Mickey? You're the smartest living liberal (faint praise), and you assured us that Obamacare was going to be fantastic.

    By now, Obama has issued "waivers" from Obamacare to about 99 percent of the country. (Perhaps you've heard, there's a big midterm election this year.) As one of the few Americans not granted a waiver, I'm here to tell you: You have no idea what's coming, America.

    I thought I had figured out the best plan for me a month ago after having doctors and hospital administrators look at the packets of material I was sent by my old insurance company -- the same mailing that informed me my old plan was "illegal" under Obamacare.

    But when I checked online recently, I discovered the premier plan -- the "platinum," low-deductible, astronomically expensive plan that might be accepted by an English-speaking doctor who didn't attend medical school in a Hawaiian shirt and board shorts -- does not include treatment at any decent hospitals.

    That's sort of unfortunate because THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WANT INSURANCE! That's the only reason any sane homo sapien wants health insurance: to cover health care costs in the event of some catastrophic illness or accident -- not to pay for Mickey Kaus' allergy appointments. But my only options under the blue-chip plan were hospitals that also do shoe repair.

    I called Blue Cross directly to ask if its most expensive insurance plan covered the only hospital I'd ever go to in an emergency. Since that's all I wanted to know, that's what I asked. (I like to get to the point that way.)


    But -- as happens whenever you try to ascertain the most basic information about insurance under Obamacare -- the Blue Cross representative began hammering me with a battery of questions about myself.

    First my name. (Does that make a difference to what hospitals its plans cover?) Then my phone number. By the time he got to my address, I said, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST TELL ME IF ANY OF YOUR PLANS COVER XYZ HOSPITAL? I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WANT TO SIGN UP WITH YOU!

    Finally, he admitted that Blue Cross' most expensive individual insurance plan does not cover treatment at the hospitals I named. Their doctors are "out of network" (and the person who designed this plan is "out of his mind").

    This was the rest of the conversation, verbatim:

    ME: None of your plans cover out-of-network doctors?

    BLUE CROSS: No.

    ME: Why is it called "Premier Guided Access WITH OUT-OF-NETWORK PLAN"?

    BLUE CROSS: Where did you see that?

    ME: On Blue Cross' own material describing its plans.

    BLUE CROSS: Oh. I don't know why it's called that.

    ME: None of your plans cover (the good hospital)?

    BLUE CROSS: No.

    ME: I don't know who you are, but I have a very specific set of skills that will help me find you. And when I find you, I am going to kill you. (Click.)

    True conversation. Except the last sentence. That was my fantasy.

    I decided to approach it from the opposite direction and called one of the nation's leading hospitals to ask which plans it accepted. The woman listed a series of plans, but she couldn't tell me if I was eligible for any of them. For that, she said, I'd have to go to the Obamacare website.

    Does Obamacare cover suicide?

    I went to "healthcare.gov" and -- I guess I had heard this, but had blocked it from my memory like a rape victim unable to remember her attack -- you can't even peek at the available plans until you've given the government reams of personal information about yourself.

    How about they let me look at the merchandise first?

    Inasmuch as the cost of health insurance under Obamacare is so high that it will generally make more sense just to pay for your own catastrophic health emergencies, I was not interested in telling Kathleen Sebelius everything about me in order to have the privilege of glancing at the government's crappy plans.

    But that's the only choice. As the Obamacare website directs:

    (1) Create an account. (Name, password.)

    (2) Tell us about yourself and your family. (Every single thing.)

    (3) Choose a health insurance plan. (That's where you finally get to see the plans.)

    I wonder if other consumer-oriented businesses will start demanding names, addresses, passwords and phone numbers before the customer is allowed to browse the merchandise. Maybe Williams-Sonoma could pick up a few sales tricks from Ezekiel Emanuel! Oh, you'd like to see the bronze muffin tin? Sure, but first I'll need your Social Security number, date of birth and mother's maiden name. Sign here, here and here.

    The main point of the Obamacare website is to encourage people other than me to get a government subsidy. There's also a section helping you register to vote. You just can't see the insurance plans. (Guess which one you need a government ID for?)
     
  6. jem

    jem

    after obamacare kicked hundreds of thousands off their plans.


    Florida Blue, for example, is terminating about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state. Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people – about half of its individual business in the state. Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers, while Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent.

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/october/21/cancellation-notices-health-insurance.aspx


     
  7. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    LOL. Success? I'd hate to see what Odumbo and his groupies consider failure. 440,000 out of 3.5 million ... that's a pathetic enrollment of 12.5%.

    We had like 48 million uninsured .. taking 12.5% of that yields 6 million. So FL is nothing more than average at best. And given that Odumbo now claims 6 million are enrolled (which I doubt) that's still horrible. We've done nothing to make a dent in the uninsured as over 87% of them are still uninsured given Odumbo's numbers. And of the 6 million many of those are people who had their policies cancelled.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...-sign-ups-are-previously-uninsured-enrollees/

    Of the 3.3 million people that the White House has touted as Obamacare exchange “sign-ups,” less than 500,000 are actual uninsured people who have actually gained health coverage.

    Of the Obamacare sign-ups, only 27 percent had been previously uninsured in 2013. And of the 27 percent, nearly half had yet to pay a premium. And half of that 27% had NOT even paid their premiums. So really it's about 13.5% who are newly insured.

    27% of 6 million is 1.62 million .. if Odumbo is happy with 1.62 Americans now having health insurance, who formerly didn't have it, then he's more screwed up than I thought. Now if cut in half to account only for those who have paid premiums we'd be at a little over 800,000 newly covered.
     
  8. I thought AP was supposed to be a news organization. Did that article read more like unbiased news piece or Obama cheerleading? Seriously, they might as well said "Evil republicans try to deny health care to people."
     
  9. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    Six million have signed up. However, only three million have enrolled.
     
  10. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    Regardless of what the real numbers are they are a dismal failure. And when you factor in that almost 85% are getting subsidies it makes it look even worse. Just think if no one got a subsidy and everyone had to pay their premium. I'd guess that total enrollment would be maybe 1 million max, just extrapolating on the percent who are getting handouts to have a good part of theirs paid for by other taxpayers.
     
    #10     Mar 27, 2014