1929 And Today - Sobering Parallels Abound

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  1. 1929 And Today - Sobering Parallels Abound

    * By Simon Maierhofer
    * On 1:14 pm EDT, Thursday October 15, 2009


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    1929 And Today - Sobering Parallels Abound

    When was the last time you saw stocks decline 54% followed by a 55% rally?

    When was the last time you saw stocks (NYSEArca: VTI - News), bonds (NYSEArca:

    AGG) and commodities (NYSEArca: DBC - News) move in sync for nearly two years?

    When was the last time asset allocation did not really provide the diversification and protection it was supposed to?

    When was the last time, a ten year investment in the stock market delivered negative returns?

    Investors that care to harken back 80 years will find that the 1929 - 1932 era is the only period of time that compares to today. In fact, the parallels between now and then are bountiful and scary.

    But who cares about history when the market is up and the forecasts call for better days ahead. The Dow Jones (DJI: ^DJI) broke the 10,000 for the first time in over a year, the S&P 500 (SNP: ^GSPC) rallied over 55% and the Nasdaq (Nasdaq: ^IXIC) has soared nearly 70%. Wall Street is anxiously expecting another earnings season, which is expected to be predominantly good.

    If there is one thing we should have learned from history, it's that the bear strikes hardest when least expected. Pierre Corneille hit the nail on the head when he said that 'danger breeds best on too much confidence.'

    Black Monday's or Thursday's wouldn't be called 'black' if they were expected. Market tops are always marked by extreme levels of optimism.

    In January 2009, with the Dow Jones slightly above 9,000, the ETF Profit Strategy Newsletter noticed elevated levels of optimism and warned of a severe decline with a target of Dow 6,700. Today, sentiment readings are even more extreme than they were in January. The implications are obvious.

    If there is just one time you want to take a lesson from history, it is RIGHT NOW. The parallels between today and the Great Depression are numerous and strikingly similar. This 5-minute history lesson might be the best investment you'll ever make.

    Optimism preceded the 1929 and 2007 market tops

    Even though a major storm was brewing, prior to the 2007 market top, Wall Street saw no 'cloud in the sky.' In its Global Economics Report, released in the summer of 2007, Merrill Lynch's analysts published the following outlook: 'The Merrill Lynch global economics team believes that the economy will continue to grow in 2007 - with no sign of a significant cyclical slowdown.'

    From 2007 to 2009, the major indexes declined some 50%.

    On December 4, 1928, President Coolidge sent the following message on the state of the Union to the reconvening Congress: No Congress of the United States ever assembled, on surveying the state of the Union, has met with a more pleasing prospect than that which appears at the present time. You may regard the present with satisfaction and anticipate the future with optimism.'

    A few days before leaving office in 1929, the parting President cheerfully observed that the economy was absolutely sound and that stocks were cheap at current prices.

    Following the 1929 highs, the Dow Jones (NYSEArca: DIA - News) declined 48%.

    The market rallied 50% in 1929/1930 and today

    Following the initial 48% decline in 1929, the Dow Jones rallied 48% within a period of six months. This rally was powerful and retraced 52% of the Dow points lost in the initial decline. Even though the market was far from its previous highs, investors had once again gotten excited about owning stocks and felt confident that the market would continue to move higher.

    On March 25, 1930, just a few weeks before the waterfall decline resumed, the New York Times reported that 'Wall Street was in a cheerful frame of mind as a result of numerous vague reports of improvement in business and industry.'

    Once the bear market resumed, it erased another 86% of the Dow's value.

    Following the 54% 2007 - 2009 decline, the Dow Jones rallied 54%. So far, the Dow has retraced 45% of the points lost in the initial decline. The 50% mark, a Fibonacci retracement level, often exercises a magical pull and provides an upper target for bear market rallies (chart below includes data up to 8-15-09).

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    Similar to the 'vague reports of improvements' reported in 1930, today's 'good news' reports are merely an adaption to lower expectations; many consider it the new normal. Just like in 1930, vague reports of improvements (in 2009 they've become known as 'green shoots') are enough to propel stocks. For savvy investors, the parallels between the two declines and subsequent rallies are certainly too close for comfort.

    It all started with real estate

    Did you know that the Great Depression was preceded by a great real estate boom centered in Florida? The Florida real estate bubble burst in 1926, three years before equities. Just as we've seen recently, investors took their leftovers from the real estate bust and poured it into stocks. Talk about jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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    The 1930s version of Warren Buffett

    Yes, the Great Depression had its own Warren Buffett - John D. Rockefeller. In his first public statement in decades, Mr. Rockefeller expressed his conviction 'that fundamental conditions of the country are sound, my son and I have for some days been purchasing sound common stocks.' A few months later, on November 13, 1929, Mr. Rockefeller allegedly entered a million-share buying agreement to peg Standard Oil's stock price at $50.

    Rockefeller's public appearance is strikingly similar to Warren Buffett's October 16, 2008 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, 'Buy America. I am.' Buffett confirmed his view many more times since, most recently in a 7-24-2009 interview with CNBC's Squawk Box where he stated that Dow 9,000 is still a good time to buy stocks.

    Initially, John D. Rockefeller looked like a genius because stocks started the mother of all sucker rallies the week he allegedly entered into the buying agreement. The 1930 green shoots, however, wilted quickly. A few years later, mighty Standard Oil - the parent company of Exxon and Mobil - traded at $20 share, more than 70% below its prior high. Few companies have been as influential as Standard Oil in the early 20th century and Berkshire Hathaway today. Even though they are decades apart, their paths might be similar.

    Putting this bear market into perspective

    The bear market from the 2007 highs has humbled all markets: large cap stocks (NYSEArca: IVV - News), mid cap stocks (NYSEArca: IWR) and small cap stocks (NYSEArca: IJR - News). Defensive sectors such as consumer staples and aggressive sectors such a consumer discretionary. Global developed markets and emerging markets (NYSEArca: EEM).

    This unique 'red across the board' behavior has not been seen in the 70s, 80s or 2000 bear markets. The only other similar time period to be found is during the Great Depression.

    Waiting for the last laugh

    While bulls feast on the current gains, bears and average investors observe the market's rise with amazement. This doesn't mean that this humongous rally was entirely unexpected. Contrary to the prevalent dooms-day atmosphere surrounding the March lows, the ETF Profit Strategy Newsletter issued a Trend Change Alert on March 2nd, predicting the biggest rally since the October all-time highs with a target range of Dow 9,000 - 10,000.

    John Kenneth Galbraith, author of 1929 - The Great Crash, described the pattern of the 1929-1932 bear market as follows:

    'The worst continued to worsen. What looked one day like the end proved on the next day to have been only the beginning. Nothing could have been more ingeniously designed to maximize the suffering, and also to insure that as few people as possible escape the common misfortune. The fortunate speculator who had funds to answer the first margin call presently got another and equally urgent one, and if he met that there would still be another. In the end all the money he had was extracted from him and lost. The man with the smart money, who was safely out of the market when the first crash came, naturally went back in to pick up bargains. The bargains then suffered a ruinous fall. Even the man who waited for volume of trading to return to normal and saw Wall Street become as placid as a produce market, and who then bought common stocks would see their value drop to a third or a fourth of the purchase price in the next 24 months. The Coolidge bull market was a remarkable phenomenon. The ruthlessness of its liquidation was, in its own way, equally remarkable.'

    This counter trend rally is likely to be the biggest one of the bear market which started two years ago. While we've seen the biggest rally of this bear, we have yet to experience the biggest decline. This decline may delay for another few days or weeks but it is certain to come.

    Just when you thought it wasn't possible

    If this sounds impossible, consider the following:

    1) The Dow Jones measured in the only true currency - Gold (NYSEArca: GLD - News) has already declined over 80%. To reset valuations, the Dow measured in dollars will have to follow.

    2) Japan's (NYSEArca: EWJ - News) Nikkei has lost as much as 80% since its 1990 all-time high. This drop came amidst a global bull market. Imagine what a global bear market can do.

    3) A look at current dividend yields and P/E ratios shows that U.S. stocks are grossly overvalued. The current P/E ratio of 141 (reported by Standard & Poor's) dwarfs even the P/E ratios seen during the dot.com bubble, where technology companies (NYSEarca: XLK - News) with no earnings traded at $100 a share and more.

    The human tendency to shun overpriced stocks will take over once this emotional buying frenzy has run its course. That's how it's always been, that's how it will prove to be. Once that happens, the majority of investors will wish they'd listened to the subtle but clear advice presented by history.
     
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    BYLo, what did the dollar do during that 29-30 period? We really have not had a market rally have we? Not much anyway, in constant dollars. Was that 29-30 period real in constant dollars? That might be a significant difference. I don't know. Just asking.

    I didn't understand this:

    "1) The Dow Jones measured in the only true currency - Gold (NYSEArca: GLD - News) has already declined over 80%. To reset valuations, the Dow measured in dollars will have to follow."

    Seems the Dow now is doing what it is supposed to do when the dollar devalues. Isn't it supposed to go up? I mean that's why people buy stocks instead of bonds isn't it? They (stocks) go up when the purchasing power of the dollar goes down, to keep you sort of, kind of, treading water with a falling dollar! Or did I just dream all of this. I did have a restless night last night.
     
  4. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff is the reason why this won't be nearly as bad as the 30s.

    "Overall, world trade decreased by some 66% between 1929 and 1934."

    We killed the global economy. It won't happen this time.

    Asset deflation is coming.
     
  5. Bingo, and I'll do you one better: if bernanke and the FOMC can erode the USD a bit more, he will be beyond genius. All those people with 40k of CC debt may end up with about 20% of that, depending on how long they've had it.
     
  6. Smoot-Hawley was only a small piece of the Depression puzzle. Credit was a much more integral part.
     
  7. What I'm saying is Smoot-Hawley won't happen this time.

    That's the difference between then and now.


    Cap and trade certainly poses a major threat.
     
  8. EXACTLY. Gentlemen, I submit to you a chart of the Baltic Dry Index, a great indicator of world economic activity. You'll notice it's down...only about 90% from it's recent peak.

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  9. the1

    the1

    I just did a quick revenue search among companies like AAPL, GOOG, KO, PEP, JNJ, PG, and more, and try and tell them there is a recession/depression. Revenue numbers for some of these companies is near all-time highs while others are back to 2007 levels and beyond. Hell, even BNI's revenue numbers are above 2007's. The recession/depression is over and it ain't coming back. The market may correct -- it would be healthy if it did -- but another severe downturn ain't gonna happen, at least no time soon. All is well in America. Now we just gotta figure out how to get rid of GS :D
     
  10. So back to 2002 levels.
     
    #10     Oct 20, 2009