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spreadn00b
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 195 |
10-21-06 04:34 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but with earnings season and shorts getting beaten up on this rally, I see so many threads here about not getting out when one should, having the stock gap down/up and getting creamed, not having a stop loss and getting creamed, etc.
It seems to me that everyone has a profit target and some may have a stop loss (but I tend to agree with the people that don't because it seems to get in the way in the long run). Using vertical spreads seems to a) set your profit and stop loss for you already b) allow you to stay in the game even though your stop loss has been "hit", you're not done if the stock rallies back and you're not going to lose more if the stock goes lower. c) your "trading plan" is pretty much written for you by the vertical you choose and d) requires less of your capital at risk.
So I wonder, why trade stocks at all? I guess you'd have to if the stock does not have options. Is it the b/a spread that irritates people? Will there be a mass movement to options when they go to penny pricing?
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spreadn00b
Registered: Aug 2006
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10-21-06 04:48 PM
So when they go to pennies, will that convert you or are there still other irritations such as theta and vol crush? Also, out of curiosity, what is your trading time frame?
Quote from LT701:
'Is it the b/a spread that irritates people? '
YUP, it does me
extremely hard to take small losses with options
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LT701
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 1389 |
10-21-06 04:54 PM
Quote from spreadn00b:
So when they go to pennies, will that convert you or are there still other irritations such as theta and vol crush? Also, out of curiosity, what is your trading time frame?
there's just so much more that you have to know with options, such as which ones have the volume, what strike price, what dates, etc
and you've got to be right, right now, or decay kills you
i'd rather know fewer things well, than a lot of things poorly
i just dont know how to control risk with them, so i dont try
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IV_Trader
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 1845 |
10-21-06 05:04 PM
Quote from spreadn00b:
So when they go to pennies, will that convert you or are there still other irritations such as theta and vol crush? Also, out of curiosity, what is your trading time frame?
don't count so much on penny increment so much. You will be ABLE to enter , but you still need a buyer/seller on the other side to take the trade. But it will definetly helps in some cases.
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Bitstream
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 5359 |
10-21-06 05:21 PM
i like to trade 'em at exp day, itm ones...they move slightly more than the underlyin' havin' a delta exceedin' 1 and u can take advantage of the serious leverage. eg. aapl 75 calls would have given u 10/1 leverage on friday and spread is just 5c, not that big of a whoop.
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