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Chicken Little
 

Registered: Feb 2005
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06-10-06 11:02 PM

Now the question is how does the trader operate within the channels ?
Here are some channels posted by JH with trade locations notated by the yellow dot.

Oddi:
Would you please explain what triggers the trade at the places marked by the blue circles if you know ?

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oddiduro
 

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1655

 

06-11-06 03:33 AM


Quote from Chicken Little:

Now the question is how does the trader operate within the channels ?
Here are some channels posted by JH with trade locations notated by the yellow dot.

Oddi:
Would you please explain what triggers the trade at the places marked by the blue circles if you know ?



Trade triggers are defined by correct vol and indicator readings.

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steve46
 

Registered: Mar 2003
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06-11-06 05:37 AM

I think many of us would like to know why all the negative comments from a person who obviously couldn't be bothered to learn the basic rule set?

Steve

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nononsense
 

Registered: Jun 2003
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06-11-06 02:25 PM

Jack,
Won't you think it's about time you rise from your but to calm down these heated discussions?

Make a few trades against Trader666 and reign like the king of ET.

Given your unbelievable amount of pages at ET's - some think perfectly useless crap - you owe it to all of us to do something about this.

As you know yourself, lill' Oddi is of no use in all this.

CREDIBILITY

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Chicken Little
 

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 228

 

06-11-06 03:43 PM


Quote from oddiduro:

Trade triggers are defined by correct vol and indicator readings.




It seems to me that JH picked out some trades that are not logically explained by constructing channels or using indicators. Trades 3 & 5 lie on bar extremes which coincide with a previously drawn trendline. That seems a logical place to trade and is a reasonable explanation for why those trades would have occurred there. Trades 1,2 & 4 lie at a bar extreme not on a previously drawn trendline. Since indicators are usually calculated on bar closings, they will never indicate a bar extreme exit unless the bar closes there. Points 1,2 and 4 do not have such bar closings. And on this chart there are no volume or indicators anyway. Unless someone explains how these trades occur at bar extremes, I think its reasonable to conclude that the trades were picked with the benefit of hindsight.

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oddiduro
 

Registered: Dec 2002
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06-11-06 04:20 PM


Quote from Chicken Little:

It seems to me that JH picked out some trades that are not logically explained by constructing channels or using indicators. Trades 3 & 5 lie on bar extremes which coincide with a previously drawn trendline. That seems a logical place to trade and is a reasonable explanation for why those trades would have occurred there. Trades 1,2 & 4 lie at a bar extreme not on a previously drawn trendline. Since indicators are usually calculated on bar closings, they will never indicate a bar extreme exit unless the bar closes there. Points 1,2 and 4 do not have such bar closings. And on this chart there are no volume or indicators anyway. Unless someone explains how these trades occur at bar extremes, I think its reasonable to conclude that the trades were picked with the benefit of hindsight.



CL, you asked a simple question, and I gave you a simple answer.
Now, I am not really concerned with going up the road that you are trying to go. If you believe the trades were selected with the benefit of hindsight, that's fine with me. I really don't care to that degree. Jack teaches a lot of things that have to be used as an integrated system. For those that can do that, money is made. For those that cannot do that, they should try something else. There are many ways to extract money from the market, and it is becoming clear to me that Jack's way of explaining market behavior may not be for you. That does not make you dumb, nor does understanding what Jack is saying make any of us smart. Sometimes things just do not resonate with people.

There is another nice system that uses keltner channels and a chaikin oscillator. Bill Williams uses a MACD and an Elliot Wave combination. WDGann uses confluence points between price and time. Connie Brown uses RSI and a stochastic of the RSI as far as I can tell. There is also a good thread about trading hammers.

Maybe Jack is not for you CL, I detect that you are more interested in being advarsarial, and I am finally growing weary of playing the good samaritan. If you wish to continue to learn Jack's methods, I must insist that you gather a baseline of information regarding the methods, put on some real time trades and then we can do after action reports on your trading day.

Best Regards
Oddi

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