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developer17
 

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 9

 

06-22-05 05:41 PM

Folks,

I had 16 Contracts (GOOG) (call options - strike 280) in my IRA account at IB. Last week at 4 PM, Google was still under 280 and was not able to sell the options since the bid was nil. Since GOOG was under 280, I just let the options expire.

But since GOOG moved to 280.30 a little later after the close, my options were automatically exercised by the Options clearing authority. I had just a balance of over $800.00 in my account

On Monday, IB liquidated GOOG at the open for a net loss of around $10,000. Now IB wants me to deposit $9200.00 in my account to settle the negative balance.

I assumed that since IRA's are cash accounts, I would never have to deal with a margin call. But now I am in serious trouble. Lastly, I cannot contribute $9000.00 to an IRA in any given year. It is well past the maximum allowed.

Please advise ...

thanks

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Truff
 

Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 971

 

06-22-05 05:49 PM


Quote from developer17:

Folks,

I had 16 Contracts (GOOG) (call options - strike 280) in my IRA account at IB. Last week at 4 PM, Google was still under 280 and was not able to sell the options since the bid was nil. Since GOOG was under 280, I just let the options expire.

But since GOOG moved to 280.30 a little later after the close, my options were automatically exercised by the Options clearing authority. I had just a balance of over $800.00 in my account

On Monday, IB liquidated GOOG at the open for a net loss of around $10,000. Now IB wants me to deposit $9200.00 in my account to settle the negative balance.

I assumed that since IRA's are cash accounts, I would never have to deal with a margin call. But now I am in serious trouble. Lastly, I cannot contribute $9000.00 to an IRA in any given year. It is well past the maximum allowed.

Please advise ...

thanks

Since when can you trade options besides covered calls in an IRA. If thats the case the broker should not of allowed you to enter that trade in the first place and should be held accountable

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vulture
 

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 1538

 

06-22-05 05:55 PM


Quote from Truff:

Since when can you trade options besides covered calls in an IRA. If thats the case the broker should not of allowed you to enter that trade in the first place and should be held accountable



If you enter a self directed IRA, you can trade all sorts of products and strategies. Can even trade futures, various options spreads, etc, etc.

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The Kin
 

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 3267

 

06-22-05 05:57 PM

WOW! That's one messed up situation.

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wilburbear
 

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 3038

 

06-22-05 06:01 PM


Quote from developer17:

Folks,

I had 16 Contracts (GOOG) (call options - strike 280) in my IRA account at IB. Last week at 4 PM, Google was still under 280 and was not able to sell the options since the bid was nil. Since GOOG was under 280, I just let the options expire.

But since GOOG moved to 280.30 a little later after the close, my options were automatically exercised by the Options clearing authority. I had just a balance of over $800.00 in my account

On Monday, IB liquidated GOOG at the open for a net loss of around $10,000. Now IB wants me to deposit $9200.00 in my account to settle the negative balance.

I assumed that since IRA's are cash accounts, I would never have to deal with a margin call. But now I am in serious trouble. Lastly, I cannot contribute $9000.00 to an IRA in any given year. It is well past the maximum allowed.

Please advise ...

thanks



Since IB traded your account, let them pick up the tab.

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Htrader
 

Registered: Jan 2001
Posts: 1108

 

06-22-05 06:04 PM

With such a large amount involved, I recommend you speak to a securities lawyer.

http://www.greencompany.com/


Any "advice" you receive on these boards will most likely be incorrect.

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