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OnClose
 

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10-17-12 03:48 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/knigh...-101032960.html

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noob_trad3r
 

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10-17-12 04:10 PM

I guess the money outsourcing programmers to India ended up costing them.

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Grandluxe
 

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10-17-12 04:46 PM

expensive......owwwwww

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DeeDeeTwo
 

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 623

 

10-18-12 12:44 AM

As an engineer that runs Automated Systems...
It completely blows my mind that limits were not set...
That would have aborted Algos X% away from the market...
Nor was there a KILL switch to just cancel ALL activity.

Wait, there's more...
This went on for 30-40 minutes before someone shut it down...
When it was apparent within 30 seconds something was VERY wrong.

Even a basic retail platform like TWS...
Is set to require manual overrides for potentially erroneous orders.

Knight is effectively bankrupt...
Whoever ran the Systems department...
Was probably frog-marched out the door.

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newwurldmn
 

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 2606

 

10-18-12 12:49 AM


Quote from DeeDeeTwo:

As an engineer that runs Automated Systems...
It completely blows my mind that limits were not set...
That would have aborted Algos X% away from the market...
Nor was there a KILL switch to just cancel ALL activity.

Wait, there's more...
This went on for 30-40 minutes before someone shut it down...
When it was apparent within 30 seconds something was VERY wrong.

Even a basic retail platform like TWS...
Is set to require manual overrides for potentially erroneous orders.

Knight is effectively bankrupt...
Whoever ran the Systems department...
Was probably frog-marched out the door.



They aren't bankrupt. They lost 400MM and got someone to give them 400MM in exchange for most of the equity. It's BUA now except some loss of credibility and the old shareholders now get 30 cents on every dollar of earnings vs the full dollar before.

They could have been bankrupt if no one stepped up to buy a stake.

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southall
 

Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 387

 

10-18-12 06:12 AM


Quote from DeeDeeTwo:

As an engineer that runs Automated Systems...
It completely blows my mind that limits were not set...
Nor was there a KILL switch to just cancel ALL activity.



Human error.
Much worse things have happened than a 400 million trading loss.
Nuclear power stations have melted down because humans can unintentionally by pass the limits and fail safes.

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