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clearinghouse

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 572

10-09-12 06:05 PM

Can't seem to find news on this guy. What happened? Rather large seller appeared out of the blue intraday, and I don't have a decent news feed. I'm assuming some knowledge bout the dividend or some business practice got released.

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Bob111

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 6433

10-09-12 07:01 PM

look at GLUU -20%-no news
PAMT-13%. no news
UNIS-13%. no news

NLY -0.7%,while markets are -1%. what's the big deal?

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clearinghouse

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 572

10-09-12 09:32 PM

Quote from Bob111:

look at GLUU -20%-no news
PAMT-13%. no news
UNIS-13%. no news

NLY -0.7%,while markets are -1%. what's the big deal?

Not really a big deal, just that usually it's news that pushes this thing around if the volume is >50k shares over a few seconds. But, today, there were moves in excess of a few cents in both directions, with moves involving over 500k shares over a few seconds.

I assumed it was news driven, but could not find anything news related.

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Whistlingleaf

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 293

10-09-12 10:43 PM

Market down and TLT down ... LT rates are going up - the Fed screwed the pooch with a premature QE3.

mReits with massive leverage move up when TLT goes up and crushed when it goes down.

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Bob111

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 6433

10-10-12 02:35 AM

Quote from Whistlingleaf:

Market down and TLT down ... LT rates are going up - the Fed screwed the pooch with a premature QE3.

mReits with massive leverage move up when TLT goes up and crushed when it goes down.

can i short TLT, long bunch of mReits and keep the difference in dividends?

or long some TBT and x2 something like REM and keep the div's?

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Whistlingleaf

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 293

10-10-12 03:05 AM

In theory mReits will go down at an accelerated rate compared to TLT since they're basically just TLT on leverage.

I forget which is which, but NLY/AGNC are 5&10 times leveraged.

Of course it might take awhile to happen ...

Even high dividend plays are at risk moving forward if Treasuries start to rise.... the Fed's interference really has things out of whack, and eventually things will return to a more normalized state (no QE/Twist) and it won't be pretty.

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