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guest2

Registered: Feb 2008
Posts: 44

10-02-12 08:49 PM

Hi

I cannot find anywhere manual/specification for these orders:

AFG
AGP
ARMPT
ATCALL
ATDARK
ATFLOOR
ATHIT
ATIOC
ATLOVY
ATMID
ATSAVE
ATTREE
DARKVPS
GEILI
LITOR
MIDP
MIDVPS
NANDO
PASS
PLUM
POPLAR
SMARTVPS
SUPERMID

I know that MID is for midpoint, DP = dark pool etc, but e.g. ATLOVY, POPLAR, NANDO and rest?
What does mean VPS, TREE SAVE ?

I do not even know/cannot find to which firms they belong.

thx for any info
greetings
guest

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clearinghouse

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 572

10-02-12 10:06 PM

Quote from guest2:

Hi

I cannot find anywhere manual/specification for these orders:

AFG
AGP
ARMPT
ATCALL
ATDARK
ATFLOOR
ATHIT
ATIOC
ATLOVY
ATMID
ATSAVE
ATTREE
DARKVPS
GEILI
LITOR
MIDP
MIDVPS
NANDO
PASS
PLUM
POPLAR
SMARTVPS
SUPERMID

I know that MID is for midpoint, DP = dark pool etc, but e.g. ATLOVY, POPLAR, NANDO and rest?
What does mean VPS, TREE SAVE ?

I do not even know/cannot find to which firms they belong.

thx for any info
greetings
guest

The names vary from broker to broker, but I can tell you that ARMPT is an EDGA Midpoint Remove strategy.

Tell me your broker, private message is fine. I might be able to help more.

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Occam

Registered: Apr 2009
Posts: 471

10-02-12 10:47 PM

As clearinghouse said, you really have to ask your broker if you want to know what these routes are. I'd be very cautious in using any of these unless you have word from your broker about what the route is and how it works; Sterling's API may even report misinformation about what the order is really doing if the broker hasn't hooked things in correctly, so if you're running a strategy that's sensitive to order specifics, then I'd monitor things closely any time you try a new route or your broker changes something major on their back-end.

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guest2

Registered: Feb 2008
Posts: 44

10-03-12 12:32 PM

HO respond that they will not reveal their broker name. I do not ve any idea why this is so secret ?

However my friend told me that they probably cooperate with http://www.wedbushinc.com/

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clearinghouse

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 572

10-03-12 02:08 PM

Quote from guest2:

HO respond that they will not reveal their broker name. I do not ve any idea why this is so secret ?

However my friend told me that they probably cooperate with http://www.wedbushinc.com/

They make it secret so they don't have to divulge their private relationships with dark pools and order aggregators. They are selling your flow for money or trying to use your orders to work their way up tiers.

Wedbush is the clearing firm. The "broker" is the one who actually manages your account.

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guest2

Registered: Feb 2008
Posts: 44

11-19-12 01:16 PM

Hi

Recently I moved to the another propfirm and I`ve a new list of orders which I do not understand(what/how they do):

CSMMA
CSMMM
CSMMN
CSMMP
DAGR
DBSTEALTH
DPASS
GUERRILLA
KNFA

Fees
DAGR: $2.0/1000
CSMMA: $1,3/1000
KNFA: $2,3/1000
DBSTEALTH: $2.0/1000

The situation is the same like in EPT. HO will not reveal their broker name.
I`m 99% sure that DBSTEALTH belongs to Deutsche Banks:
http://www.hftreview.com/pg/blog/mi...ource-liquidity

If anyone ve some spec. info about these orders/or urls to articles please share.

greetings
guest

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