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surfer25
 

Registered: Jan 2007
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09-04-12 02:19 PM

Just wondering why are there are fees for canceling or modifying options orders, since stocks don't have them.
Thanks.

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1245
 

Registered: May 2012
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09-04-12 02:49 PM


Quote from surfer25:

Just wondering why are there are fees for canceling or modifying options orders, since stocks don't have them.
Thanks.



When electronic option markets opened the pipes up to HFT, many electronic market makers would flood option markets with a large number of orders all going after the few customer orders left on the book that are good, or after a market maker that had stale markets. This extreme volume would often shut down exchanges like the AMEX or PHLX. The exchanges had to build an infrastructure to deal with this. So, any trader that has excessive ratios of canceled orders to fills, get charge for the bandwidth there are using. Most customers don't receive any cancellation fees unless you earn them, except at IB which charges everyone.

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surfer25
 

Registered: Jan 2007
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09-04-12 03:01 PM


Quote from 1245:

When electronic option markets opened the pipes up to HFT, many electronic market makers would flood option markets with a large number of orders all going after the few customer orders left on the book that are good, or after a market maker that had stale markets. This extreme volume would often shut down exchanges like the AMEX or PHLX. The exchanges had to build an infrastructure to deal with this. So, any trader that has excessive ratios of canceled orders to fills, get charge for the bandwidth there are using. Most customers don't receive any cancellation fees unless you earn them, except at IB which charges everyone.



Thanks for the response.
Is there an option broker with commissions as low as IB that doesn't charge cancellation fees?

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1245
 

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09-04-12 03:03 PM


Quote from surfer25:

Thanks for the response.
Is there an option broker with commissions as low as IB that doesn't charge cancellation fees?



If you have enough assets and volume to use an Introducing Broker, yes.

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smile
 

Registered: Jul 2008
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09-04-12 03:29 PM


Quote from 1245:

If you have enough assets and volume to use an Introducing Broker, yes.



What are enough assets and volume to use an Introducing Broker?
Just a ballpark. Thank you.

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Daal
 

Registered: Oct 2002
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09-04-12 03:42 PM

Doesn't BATS routing enable one to bypass cancel/modify fees?

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