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Daal
 

Registered: Oct 2002
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08-31-12 12:00 PM

This option on the trade ticket says they will look for hidden liquidity, I assume they try to fill you in some dark pools, is this correct?
If so which dark pools are these?

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1245
 

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08-31-12 01:50 PM


Quote from Daal:

This option on the trade ticket says they will look for hidden liquidity, I assume they try to fill you in some dark pools, is this correct?
If so which dark pools are these?




Not really.Timber hill is the trading arm of IB parent company. They are a large electronic trading desk that makes markets in options. If your order can be executed against their values, either single leg or complex order, they will trade all or part of the order with you. The advantange is that they might do better for you. The disadvantage is that no one sees that order until it executable.

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Daal
 

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08-31-12 01:51 PM


Quote from 1245:

Not really.Timber hill is the trading arm of IB parent company. They are a large electronic trading desk that makes markets in options. If your order can be executed against their values, either single leg or complex order, they will trade all or part of the order with you. The advantange is that they might do better for you. The disadvantage is that no one sees that order until it executable.



So this doesn't apply to stocks at all?Can anyone from IB confirm this?

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08-31-12 04:12 PM


Quote from Daal:

So this doesn't apply to stocks at all?Can anyone from IB confirm this?



IB doesn't internalize. Actual clients who trade via IB can attest to the quality of their fills on both stocks and options.

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Daal
 

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08-31-12 04:58 PM


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IB doesn't internalize. Actual clients who trade via IB can attest to the quality of their fills on both stocks and options.



Its not about internalization, if they tried to get a better fill by sending the order around a few dark pools I would have no problem with that as a long the price improvement was decent(1 cent or more)

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IBsoft
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08-31-12 07:57 PM


Quote from Daal:

So this doesn't apply to stocks at all?Can anyone from IB confirm this?



It applies to stock. By default the stock smart router pings a few dark pools to get a fill. (The benefit is not only potential price-improvement, but also lower venue-fee). The few chosen ones are the ones that have the lowest latency and highest likelihood of a fill.

If you chose the option you inquire about, the smart router will try all the dark pools we have access to before routing to an exchange.

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