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J-Law
 

Registered: Jun 2002
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08-12-12 03:15 PM

Our sluggish economy of late is due to more than just the after effects of 2008. Granted they're other forces like corporate america waiting out the election. But there is a more insidious force at play & I'm finding a lil disturbing that there isn a larger dialogue & we haven't dragged it out into the sunlight to formally address.

As per 60 minutes & other lecturers, the Chinese are behind a state sponsored campaign of economic espionage targeting almost sector of our economy. They engage in cyber corporate thefts of ideas, designs, & patents from US corporations & then
Turn around & then manufacture & dump a cheaper versions into the intended markets of those they stole from. So, theyre engaging in intellectual property theft & then undercut everyone else. The end result is that American companies suffer & to keep competitive lay off workers. That means less taxable incomes for US city, states, & federal municipalities. This is in essence is eroding our country's standard of living by reducing incomes for our middle class and the stratas above & below it. This isn't fair trade. It's cheating on a global scale & were paying the price.

The US is not the only target. These cyber attacks for intellectual property are also aimed at European, Canadian, & Australian corporations as well.

This CSPAN lecture puts things in perspective,
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/305546-1

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morganist
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08-12-12 03:30 PM

The biggest problem you have is the 100% plus national debt. The Chinese are allowing your economy to work by lending you the money you need to consume to then buy their goods. If America goes down China goes down. If what you are saying is true they are digging their own graves.

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oldtime
 

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08-12-12 03:50 PM


Quote from morganist:

The biggest problem you have is the 100% plus national debt. The Chinese are allowing your economy to work by lending you the money you need to consume to then buy their goods. If America goes down China goes down. If what you are saying is true they are digging their own graves.

isn't that what GS did? They loaned a lot of money, America went down and they're still standing. According to the courts it wasn't actually sabotage, but a fair amount of money was made on failure.

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morganist
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08-12-12 03:53 PM


Quote from oldtime:

isn't that what GS did? They loaned a lot of money, America went down and they're still standing. According to the courts it wasn't actually sabotage, but a fair amount of money was made on failure.



No it is all about aggregates and demand. China needs demand for the goods it makes it lends America money because it consumes them. If one of the two factors fail it brings them both down. Even if China was stealing stuff it enables Americans to buy cheaper goods. In any event they are in it together.

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oldtime
 

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08-12-12 03:57 PM


Quote from morganist:

No it is all about aggregates and demand. China needs demand for the goods it makes it lends America money because it consumes them. If one of the two factors fail it brings them both down. Even if China was stealing stuff it enables Americans to buy cheaper goods. In any event they are in it together.

mutual assured destruction?

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morganist
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08-12-12 03:59 PM


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mutual assured destruction?



In the long term. In the short term it stops world war III.

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