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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
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07-22-12 02:11 AM


Quote from Ricter:

Best part of this piece is the confirmation that government stimulus spending (if done right) can in fact boost the economy.



Right and that is exactly aligned with the libertarian/conservative position that actual "public goods" are a benefit to society. What needs to be done is to strictly define "public goods". The fact that Obama can play fast and loose with the language of public goods is a sign that political discourse is degraded.

Problems begin when certain segments of the Left try to buy votes by spending tax dollars to enable current consumption levels to rise among the part of the public whose economic production levels do not justify those consumption levels.

Society cannot endure someone whose productivity levels only support $20K of consumption consuming $30K worth of goods as a result of transfer payments. In layman's terms, you should only be able to consume an amount equal to what you produce.

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Ricter
 

Registered: Aug 2004
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07-22-12 02:29 AM


Quote from logic_man:

Society cannot endure someone whose productivity levels only support $20K of consumption consuming $30K worth of goods as a result of transfer payments. In layman's terms, you should only be able to consume an amount equal to what you produce.


Our society can and does "endure" that, and has for many decades. Entire states are net recipients of transfer payment monies. I posted a graphic and table with that information for the past twenty years (the first transfers bailed out some of the colonies!) elsewhere in the basement, but here's the link:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dail...as-fiscal-union

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piezoe
 

Registered: Jan 2006
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07-22-12 08:27 PM


Quote from Ricter:

Our society can and does "endure" that, and has for many decades. Entire states are net recipients of transfer payment monies. I posted a graphic and table with that information for the past twenty years (the first transfers bailed out some of the colonies!) elsewhere in the basement, but here's the link:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dail...as-fiscal-union



Thank you. Extremely interesting.

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sledgeyum
 

Registered: Jun 2011
Posts: 179

 

07-22-12 08:42 PM

Microsoft out of nothing?

U r a f'ING genius.

IBM built that! Duhhhh!!!


Quote from mm19:

i call it a pavlov dog reflex. Once long time ago someone created truly real business out of nothing. like microsoft.

todays money is released from pension funds to support web ideas like LDKN with excuse that this is next microsoft.

long gone, times of true enterpreneurs. you need good schools to get any chance. it is true :-)

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futurecurrents
 

Registered: May 2002
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07-22-12 10:25 PM

Third sentence after the "bad" one.


"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

President Obama

Some folks don't read that far.

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hughb
 

Registered: Feb 2007
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07-23-12 06:13 AM

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